Raptor automatically reports performance regressions. If one is due to
gecko (like when someone broke nuwa recently) it needs to be treated the
same way we would do with gaia. I see absolutely no difference there.

Note that we don't run Talos performance tests on try either - you get
emails after the fact if your commit is in the range of a regression.
Maybe raptor should also send this kind of emails?

        Fabrice

On 10/06/2015 02:35 AM, Dietrich Ayala wrote:
> I don't see any individual bashing in this thread. It's an
> organizational change, as you say.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015, 11:29 AM Etienne Segonzac <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Dietrich Ayala <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>         To be clear, you mean manually but not locally, right? I am
>         talking about using automation prior to landing on the trees
>         consumed by downstream, like is done with gecko+Firefox with
>         inbound trees, etc. Things like try servers.
> 
>         Nobody should have to run them locally and our learning there is
>         that locally run test results are not to be trusted.
> 
> 
>     Interesting. We're in complete agreement about what we need (sorry
>     about the snarky-ness of my earlier comment).
> 
>     But the harsh reality is that raptor tests are still too noisy to be
>     displayed on *gaia*-try.
>     Which means there's a long way to go before gecko try builds warn
>     platform developers about OS performance regressions.
> 
>     It's a huge task, with many technical challenges (AFAIK we'd need
>     on-device runs to get really good results), and we have 2 developers
>     on it (against, AFAIK).
> 
>     This is why I'd like to see a bit less individual-developer bashing
>     and a bit more organizational change to show that, as a project, we
>     care about performance.
> 


-- 
Fabrice Desré
b2g team
Mozilla Corporation
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