Don't worry, that looked perfectly reasonable for a French rant ;) On 12/03/2015 11:00 AM, Pouf le cascadeur wrote: > Sorry for the noise, I am not so angry that this post shows... > (arguing in english isn't easy) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: How to differentiate ourselves from everyone else > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 19:54:09 +0100 > > Totally agree with that. > > You can't, on one side, ask your users and followers to open bugs report > for what they would like, what they miss, and ask to vote for, and, on > other side (and internally), don't care for these bugs and votes. > > Your currents users are not the mass people, they are some geeks/nerds > that resist and don't want Android and Apple. > This is those guys who will promote this OS, spreading the words on > blogs and social media. > This is those guys who will open bug and, hopefully, some patches. > Those guys again that will try to learn how to create add-ons. > And those guys who will learn how to compile it and distribut or to port > FxOS on their phone. > > Not the mass, no...The geeks and nerds. > > Best regards. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Subject: Re: How to differentiate ourselves from everyone else > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 18:50:58 +0100 > > > On 02/12/2015 05:45, Marcus Cavanaugh wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Naoki Hirata <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I think we really need to go back to the roots of Mozilla and > help cater to the features that people are requesting : > http://foxfooding.github.io/dashboard/ > > > I agree with the sentiment that we should listen to our foxfooders, > rather than build a product based on unproven visions. I don't think > that this list, as it stands, represents what we should work on, nor > what we should care about. > > While some of these items would be universally welcomed, and > papercuts would be nice to fix, the overwhelming majority of users > don't care about CardDAV, WebDAV, VPN support, full-disk encryption, > or PGP email. > > The majority, no, but the people that are right now considering a switch > to FxOS certainly do. We should not care about the majority of users. We > should care about the majority of user that can potentially switch to > FxOS /right now/. Why? Because we /need /to hit that 5-10% market share > that will make us appear on charts and stats, so that people would start > making app for FxOS. This won't happen, ever, if we keep on targeting > the mass, staying always behind apple and google. > > Btw, a lot of people have a NAS that provides a CardDAV server. The vast > majority of people I know who've bought a FxOS phone without being > involved in the project told me they were missing CardDAV support. It's > no surprise to me that it is the most voted feature right now. > > Actually, it's a bit depressing to hear so many people saying that the > most voted feature are not relevant, without never ever providing either > an alternate measurement of which features are needed, or even a biased > and personal list of those features. The people who voted are the people > who care. They are our potential "customers" (not the vast majority of > users that either have never heard of FxOS, or have heard it is a sub > quality OS). > They are also the people that can evangelize for Firefox OS. It's a pity > that we are currently telling them that we don't care about what they > voted for... > > Augustin Trancart > Phoxygen > > > _______________________________________________ dev-fxos mailing list > [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos > > _______________________________________________ dev-fxos mailing list > [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos > > > _______________________________________________ > dev-fxos mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxos >
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