Hello Dev-List
This has been quite a long thread, hasn't it?
My two cents then back to work.
I myself sometimes come across something that I feel should have been done
"my way" but eventually I get into the job and get "over it" if I was to
spend as much time voicing my opinion as to what other coders should do when
they write their program, I would never get any work done.
Of course everyone would like things done in the style they are accustomed
to and I do not want to take that away from anyone, and congratulations to
those that have that much luck in life, those of us who do not, usually get
over it and get the job done anyway.
Regards
Toby Vanlandingham
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Rhett
To: James Wright
Cc: Scott Fraser ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Impassioned Plea on Code Style
You clearly have no idea what you are babbling about. Tab settings are an
editor preference. Of course it is different from system to system and even
on the same system. Check your editor settings.
Are the number of people who actually code for a living on this list really
this small, or just being silent? Gawd.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 03:22:20PM -0700, James Wright wrote:
> It just seems like a long conversation over something so petty.
>
> The reason for the space and tab mix is a cautionary measure. I
personally
> always space after a tab because across platforms and/or with different
> servers I've known the tab to disappear completely; I think anyone who
works
> with BIND will agree that that happens.
>
> The only consistently 'perfect' hand written code I've ever seen is Solena
> Sol's work. The guy has ultimate patience. :-) But even then what looks
> good on one editor doesn't look good on another even on the same system.
>
> If the tab settings are different than yours, well, the delete key is a
> great equalizer for making 4 tabs into 2. For true "no possible problem"
> they should probably only use spaces and no tabs at all.
>
> Taking the time to do a format when they're done is a fair request, but
> hardly an aspect to carry on about, don't you think?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'James Wright'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2000 14:14
> Subject: RE: Impassioned Plea on Code Style
>
>
> >
> > hallo james,
> >
> > i do not think you fully understand the point here .. i am not asking
> > that everyone drop what they are doing and spend hours working on a
> > solution because i like to waste my time counting spaces ..
> >
> > no, quite the contrary; i do not have the time to count spaces which
> > is why i do not have time to figure out code if some parts of the code
> > are occasionally indented much further than they should be when i
> > view it on an editor with different tab settings.
> >
> > okay, maybe i am being dramatic here, but if we could all agree
> > on not mixing tabs and spaces for indenting then it should only
> > take a few minutes for the opensrs people to make their code
> > conform to this and do away with the problem permanently.
> >
> > if, for some reason, it would take them longer than this then
> > perhaps it is not worth it but i can not imagine that it should.
> >
> > p.s.
> >
> > if i did have more time to spend, then perhaps i would explain to you
> > how i got credit card processing to work !
> >
> > -s.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 23. August 2000 12:33
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Impassioned Plea on Code Style
> > >
> > >
> > > These guys have enough to do. I feel bad mentioning what I consider a
> > > "real" problem. They could just join and compress all the
> > > lines and let
> > > everyone figure it out.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of annoying ways to code, but I see nothing wrong with
> > > theirs. I certainly don't waste time counting tabs and
> > > spaces when I'm
> > > coding unless I have nothing else to do; and if I had the
> > > time to do that
> > > with other peoples scripts I would be out looking for a life.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 23 August, 2000 10:49
> > > Subject: RE: Impassioned Plea on Code Style
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > i did not want to add to this thread because it seems to be
> > > going nowhere,
> > > but it seems necessary to point out that it is only common sense and
> > > courtesy to other programmers to use CONSISTENT spacing.
> > > >
> > > > be that 4 spaces, 8 spaces, 2 spaces, 1 tab or whatever, choose your
> > > indentation and stick with it! -- and above all else, do not
> > > mix tabs and
> > > spaces!
> > > >
> > > > it is foolish to assume that one editor will treat tabs the same as
> > > another .. even the same editor on a different machine may treat tabs
> > > entirely different; everyone likes to have their tabs set to their own
> > > special widths and forcing them to change it to match yours
> > > is a good way to
> > > annoy people. (as this thread so plainly shows)
> > > >
> > > > -s.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steven Fletcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 23. August 2000 06:00
> > > > > To: 'Joe Rhett'
> > > > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Impassioned Plea on Code Style
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, I agree. I use the rather wonderful TextPad when in
> > > > > Windows which give
> > > > > me the option to indent things on a per-doctype basis - I'm
> > > > > no expert on
> > > > > Unix editors in general but I'm pretty sure that they can do
> > > > > similar stuff
> > > > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm personally used to seeing things indented by 8*X columns,
> > > > > not (as is the
> > > > > case with some of the opensrs code) 8 and then 4 spaces.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Steven Fletcher
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > > No... tab settings are specific to the editor. In the file,
> > > > > > it's just a tab.
> > > > > > 1 character. How it displays a preference of the user.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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