I actually capture the IP addresses, the order number and the domains in a
SQL database setup to reconcile purchases at the end of the day...i simply
wrote a short perl module with a couple of routines that I insert at key
places in reg_system.cgi and voila...$ENV(REMOTE_ADDR) is the correct CGI
var to get the address from...

-bryanw
HalfPriceNames Domain Registry
http://www.halfpricenames.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Jeff Miller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Logging IP Address of Orders?


I was beginning to think I had this problem to myself... I had a spate of
fraudlent transactions over two months recently. It's costing me a
_fortune_. I've thought of pulling the plug on online orders. What I make in
valid transactions is being lost in chargeback fees and other bank fees on
the dodgey transactions.

The root of the problem is the banks. Or at least the CreditCard companies.
Their joint policies of always deferring to the customer, rather than the
merchant, ensures that even though a person is stupid enough to keep using
their card after it has obviously been used in dodgey transactions doesn't
lose out.
I was informed by the Merchant Service that the only time I can query a
chargeback, is if I have a signed imprinter slip in my hand.
Which means any and all online, phone, or other electoninc (non-signed)
transactions can be reclaimed, and there is nothing the seller can do about
it. To make matters worse - there seems to be no time limit. If someone sees
a transaction six months laterthen they can still do a chargeback. valid
reasons or not!

I had a person phone me at 2am from Texas the other night, complaining that
two transactions had been done on his card by my company - he had "tracked
me down over the internet". I explained to him that I had no idea who he
was, and that what had actually happened was that even though he micht still
have his credit card in hei hot little hand - the details had been stolen.
Probably from a handfull of restaurant imprinter slips, and it was being
used that way. What he should do is cancel his card to stop all the other
transactions. Probably too late, I've no doubt his account had been cleaned
out. What I did do then was look through the server logs, and found the IP
of the offending transaction - and all the others. All from Jakata. So what
can you do. It seems we - any shopkeeper - are the ones who have to cover
the MerchantCard companies from losses. We will get nowhere until that can
be fixed.

Sorry for the rant - I'm really annoyed by the attitude of the banks to
this. They are making profits even from dodgey transactions.

As to your problem of capturing the IP address. I'll have a look at it now.
I'll post it to this list if I find something out....

bob

> I just finished setting everything up on my account and was wondering if
> there is a way to log the IP address of every order submitted.
>
> I've been doing web hosting for over three years and about 60% of the
orders
> I receive are fraud.  The easiest way to tell is to take the IP address
off
> the order and do a Traceroute using VisualRoute.  It will show you where
the
> order was placed from.  Most of the time the fraudulant orders I receive
> have all the correct info of a US resident, name, address, telephone
number.
>   When I see the order was placed in Russia, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. I
> delete it.
>
> Back when I first started web hosting I didn't think about getting orders
> with stolen credit card numbers.  This ended up costing me over a thousand
> dollars due having to pay my web host and the $25 chargeback fees.
>
>
> Is there some way to log the IP address of orders?  I don't even want to
> think about accepting any domain orders until this is possible.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
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