On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Colin Viebrock wrote:
> > My point is that *TOO MUCH WORK* is required to implement 
> > the spec as  currently documented.
> 
> I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this.  I didn't
> find it too much work, and neither have others.

While the OpenSRS documentation is imperfect is has continually improved 
and has always been quite adequate.

The fact and value that a complete implemenation is provided in addition
to the spec seems to have been glossed over here.  The availabilty of a
complete implementation allowed me as well as many others to discern how
things worked and to implement our own client.  I've had good responses
from this list and from OpenSRS support when problems have arisen despite
using an "officially unsupported client".

> > http://www.netcraft.com/survey/
> > 
> > which cleary shows Microsoft is implemented on 
> > approximantly 30% of the 35 million sites surveyed.
> > 
> > Tucows is refusing to properly support its customer base 
> > though direct support of the Windows Platform.. 
> 
> Who cares what 30% of 35 million sites run?  What matters is what your
> site runs.

And netcraft isn't relevant to this situation since I seriously doubt that
even 0.1% of the Microsoft sites are running on Windows 98.  The Windows
web servers are running on platforms that are capable of running IIS!  
The above line of reasoning particularly troubles me considering the
amount of mud that's been slung toward OpenSRS in this thing.  Trying to
run production work on Windows 98 places you on the fringe.  Maybe there's
a reason Microsoft doesn't support IIS on 98!?  If you insist on being on
such a fringe, you're going to have to expect to do more and more work for
yourself thorugh time.  I don't whine because nobody writes software for
my Vax and I have do everything for myself.  Puh-leaze!

And ActivePerl does work on Windows 98.  We don't support it anymore since 
every business we consult with has moved to at least Windows 2000, but we 
ran some significant chunks of Perl middleware on Windows 98 successfully 
in multi-continent deployments.  Saying that activeperl doesn't work 
because IIS isn't available is dishonest.

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</chris>

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