So I just spoke with Callek about his plans to move SeaMonkey off of their
existing Windows 2003 builders that cannot install Visual Studio 2012 or
newer, and it seems like Dec 15th is a date that will probably work fine
for SM, and that is still within the Gecko 37 cycle.  Jeff, can we hold off
the Skia update plans until that date?

Thanks!

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Ehsan Akhgari <ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can you please ask them to not use variadic templates too?  That also
> seems to require MSVC 2013.
>
>
> On 2014-10-16, 4:33 PM, Jeff Muizelaar wrote:
>
>> Type aliasing requires 2013, but we can probably keep them from using
>> that for now. I don’t think asking them to support VS2012 will be too much
>> of a burden.
>>
>> -Jeff
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:29 PM, David Major <dma...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I was thinking it would be nice to support VS2010 as long as any of our
>>> main channels use it -- meaning we could drop it on the first day of 39.
>>> But I have no practical justification for that. If it causes a burden on
>>> Skia work then it might be reasonable to switch sooner.
>>>
>>>  This set: http://chromium-cpp.appspot.com/
>>>>
>>> What MS compiler does that list require? There's a number of people
>>> building with VS2012, would that still be supported?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>> From: "Jeff Muizelaar" <jmuizel...@mozilla.com>
>>>> To: "Ehsan Akhgari" <ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org list" <dev-platform@lists.mozilla.
>>>> org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:14:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Compiler version expectations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Ehsan Akhgari <ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 2014-10-16, 3:49 PM, Jeff Muizelaar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> After some discussion some IRC it was clear that our compiler
>>>>>> deprecation
>>>>>> schedule is not very clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that we’re using VS2013 on trunk and will soon not being using
>>>>>> GCC 4.4
>>>>>> for B2G, I expect we’ll be dropping support for building with VS2010
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> GCC 4.4  in the near term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> GCC is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077549.  No
>>>>> specific
>>>>> bug or plans for MSVC2010, but I'd be open to killing support for it on
>>>>> the next release train.
>>>>>
>>>>>  This is important to us because Skia is planing on using more C++11
>>>>>> features in the near term and we’d like to continue updating from
>>>>>> upstream. Are there reasons we can’t drop support for these compilers
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the 37-38 time frame?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What C++11 features specifically?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This set: http://chromium-cpp.appspot.com/
>>>>
>>>> -Jeff
>>>>
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>


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