On 03/11/2015 07:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote:
This build environment would be defined inside
mozilla-central in such a way that it is reproducible over time. e.g.
update your source repo to a commit from March 2015 and you automatically
get the build environment that was used in March 2015.  Another aspect of
this switch is it gets us much closer to deterministic and reproducible
builds.

Am I reading docker and reproducible in the same statement? Do we intend to save one docker image for each modification of the script? How would we deal with updates of the distribution? When should we update our dependencies? Would we have to maintain a mirror for all versions of the the distribution?

When I complain about the build system of FirefoxOS being damn crazy because you have to pull 106 repository over 108 that you only build once, this is even crazier than that. I hope we are never going to claim that the safest way of building Firefox is to download 8 GB of docker image.

This is achievable today. Bug 1133877 tracks an aspect of it.

Yes, we could also use less invasive solutions. Something which will not break users tools, while offering the option of a build environment which can be controlled, reproduced, verified (reproducibility wise), signed by Mozilla, shared between developers, and which works on Linux & Mac (& Windows maybe one day …), such as what I started in Bug 1115107.

What I don't know is:

2) Whether distros will use our official build environments.

I think answer would be something less polite than "no way!".

On the other hand, this sounds like a simple way to lose a minor part of our user and the major part of our developers, if we are no longer going to support anything else.

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Nicolas B. Pierron

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