On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Eric Shepherd <esheph...@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> Martin Thomson wrote:
>
>> There are two aspects to this: the software, and the content.
>>
>> If software cannot be updated, that a problem in its own right.  The
>> idea that you could release your server onto the Internet to fend for
>> itself for 20 years was a dream of the 90s that has taken a while to
>> die.  Just as you have to feed it electricity and packets, you have to
>> maintain software too.
>>
> In my case, the situation is that I have classic computers running 1-10
> megahertz processors, for which encrypting and decrypting SSL is not a
> plausible option.


Have you tried?  I have distinct memories of running Netscape Navigator on
an SE/30, which according to wikipedia had a 16MHz processor.  It seems
like without having to run the UI, you could run an HTTPS server that did
OK.

--Richard


> These computers have a burgeoning "retro" fanbase trying to push them to
> do new and interesting things, and a lot of that involves writing software
> that works over the Web using standard protocols. These efforts cannot be
> sustained in an HTTPS-only world.
>
> This has personal meaning to me as a long-time member of the
> retrocomputing community, and as the author of software that runs on these
> machines, including multiple programs that use HTTP to do so. If things
> start requiring HTTPS, our ability to continue to innovate and try to push
> these machines to do more and more things previously unheard of starts to
> come to an end. I don't like that notion very much.
>
> Is it a niche case? Sure. But it's not one to be dismissed outright
> without at least having its voice heard, so here I am, representing our
> little crowd.
>
> I'm not trying to stir up trouble or be a pain in the ass. Just pointing
> out that there honestly, truly are valid use cases for straight-up HTTP,
> even if they're rare.
>
> (FWIW, I concede that the "not everything needs encryption" position is a
> little overstated, but I also think that there really is stuff that doesn't
> need encrypting, even if it's a tiny fraction of the Web's traffic).
>
> --
>
> Eric Shepherd
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