If I am the only one that wants to put in a formal objection here,
then I'll let it go and go with whatever everyone else think we should
do.

/ Jonas

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:22 PM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
> On Tuesday 2015-09-08 23:25 -0700, Jonas Sicking wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Tantek Çelik <tan...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Henri Sivonen <hsivo...@hsivonen.fi> 
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:59 PM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
>> >> > The W3C is proposing revised charters for:
>> >> >
>> >> >   Web Platform Working Group:
>> >> >   http://www.w3.org/2015/07/web-platform-wg.html
>> >> >   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2015Jul/0020.html
>> >
>> >
>> > tl;dr I think we should vote to approve these charters with changes
>> > requested (but not required), based on the input in this thread to date.
>>
>> I absolutely think that we should only vote to approve these charters
>> if they remove merging the WebApps and HTML WGs.
>
> My one other thought here is that even if we formally object to the
> merging of the groups, I don't think we're likely to be able to win
> that argument at this stage.  Right now they've found chairs for the
> combined group, and I'm not aware of anyone else objecting to it.
>
> Part of the motivation for merging the groups was that nobody seemed
> to have any high-priority work to go in the HTML working group.
> There are a bunch of things people want to happen with existing
> HTML, but nobody seemed ready to step up to do any of it.  This
> means that there didn't seem to be a good motivation for chartering
> a new HTML working group on its own.  This also means that even if
> we objected to the merger, there wouldn't be a good alternative to
> the merger.
>
> I think it's worth expressing concern about the possibility that
> this will mess up the existing WebApps community.  And if bad things
> happen, we should raise them quickly and at a high level.
>
> -David
>
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