On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45:57AM -0700, kthies...@mozilla.com wrote: > On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 9:42:02 PM UTC-7, jtkel...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 1:35:06 PM UTC-5, Botond Ballo wrote: > > > Based on this new information, might there be room to reconsider this > > > decision? > > > > Even if you do not reconsider the full decision, could you at least turn it > > back on for v52, so it can ride the ESR train? This has also been mentioned > > in the bug in question. > > > > This would give users a longer period of time to try and transition to > > PulseAudio or find a solution like apulse to keep Firefox audio working for > > them. And it would give you more time to accept patches on the ALSA > > backend, without impeding work on the 5.1 audio support for PulseAudio. > > > > Users would have to consciously choose to use the ESR version once v53 > > comes out, hence you will be sure that they will be aware of the potential > > dropping of ALSA support. > > > > It seems a simple fix to give the disgruntled users something and ease > > hostilities, making things easier on all the devs involved, and give the > > users a feeling that Mozilla listens, so they won't have another reason to > > leave. > > > > Clearly a lot of people are affected. A lot of smaller distros use Firefox > > as their default, and do not want to include PulseAudio which adds a > > further complication and is unnecessary for nearly every other Linux app. > > Agreed. PulseAudio is "opinionated software," much like systemd, by the same > author. Some folks feel that PulseAudio's opinions, like systemd's, run > counter to the practices of good Linux/Unix system operators. Insisting on > PulseAudio discourages the inclusion of Firefox in the smaller, less > commercially-focused distros.
Speaking only for myself even leaving asside my opinions about PulseAudio's opinions its opinions can come into conflict with other software that people care about more than audio. That happens for me personally, and while I still use Firefox I've accepted not having audio in the browser. Trev > > Also, please be aware that this will have effects on *BSD ports of Firefox. > Most of the people who run BSD by choice want nothing to do with "Linuxisms" > like PulseAudio. > > Thanks for reading, > --KT. > > -- > Karl THIESSEN > Systems group, Firefox Test Engineering, > Mozilla Corp. > _______________________________________________ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
