Percy <percyal...@gmail.com> writes:

>As we observed the large scale MITM against iCloud, Outlook, Google and
>Github carried out on the backbone router with self-signed certs, and that
>the browsers are explicitly loads self-signed certs, I think it's clear that
>browsers in China are compelled by the gov to enable insecure cryptography by
>default.

Is that really the government compelling them, or just the browser vendors
deciding to enable a free market and/or remove dependency on non-Chinese CAs?
If the browsers secretly trusted some government-run CA that'd be a different
matter, but I'm not sure whether simply chosing to trust self-signed certs is
a genuine smoking gun...

Peter.
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