Hi Gerv,

Is it your intent that once OneCRL-revoked intermediates are brought into 
compliance that they'd be removed from OneCRL, or are they gone for good, a 
warning sign to those who follow.

Alex

PS: Maybe it'd be good to use a source of randomness that is not from the UK 
government.

On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 11:19:15 AM UTC-5, Gervase Markham wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'd like to take some action about persistent failures to properly
> disclose intermediates. The deadline for this was June, and CAs have had
> a number of reminders, so there's no excuse.
> 
> Of course, if intermediates aren't disclosed, we can't be certain what
> they are, but crt.sh has a good idea of many of them:
> https://crt.sh/mozilla-disclosures#undisclosed
> 
> There is also a list on that page of certs which CAs have disclosed but
> not provided audit info, but given that you can get off that list by
> putting _anything_ in the relevant box in Salesforce, I'm worried about
> perverse incentives if we go after people on that list at the moment:
> https://crt.sh/mozilla-disclosures#disclosureincomplete
> 
> Anyway, considering the first list: what do we do? I'm not particularly
> in favour of sending another nagging email. We could just un-trust the
> lot, but that might be quite impactful. So here's my proposal: we play
> Russian Roulette. We choose 3 certs from the list each week and add them
> to OneCRL, and email the CAs concerned to tell them we've done it.
> Hopefully after a few weeks, they'll get the message.
> 
> RFC 3797 has a handy mechanism called "verifiable random selection",
> which allows you to make a random selection from a list that can be
> publicly verified as random. And, even more handily, I've written an
> implementation of it in JavaScript:
> http://www.gerv.net/hacking/vrs/
> 
> We would choose 3 certs from the list as it exists every Monday at 2pm
> UK time, using the following sources of randomness for the algorithm:
> 
> 1) UK National Lottery "Lotto" numbers, not including bonus ball
> 2) UK National Lottery "Thunderball" numbers, not including Thunderball
> 3) UK National Lottery "Lotto Hotpicks" numbers
> 
> All would be from the draws which take place on the Saturday preceding
> the Monday in question. https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/results
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Gerv

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