They are no longer issuing from the digicert cross. The issue is within their 
PKI but  there should be no additional certificates chained to DigiCert roots

On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Ben Wilson 
<ben.wil...@digicert.com<mailto:ben.wil...@digicert.com>> wrote:

Apparently they haven’t yet, but we’ll assume that they will.
Does the community expect a remediation plan for their code and then a 
revocation-and-replacement plan?

Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP
VP Compliance
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From: Alex Gaynor [mailto:agay...@mozilla.com]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:31 AM
To: Ben Wilson <ben.wil...@digicert.com<mailto:ben.wil...@digicert.com>>
Cc: Jeremy Rowley 
<jeremy.row...@digicert.com<mailto:jeremy.row...@digicert.com>>; Jonathan 
Rudenberg <jonat...@titanous.com<mailto:jonat...@titanous.com>>; 
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Subject: Re: Certificates with less than 64 bits of entropy

Have they fixed whatever issue there is with their PKI infrastructure that 
leads to this issue? From skimming, I see this pool contains certs issued as 
recently as one month ago.

Alex

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Ben Wilson via dev-security-policy 
<dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org<mailto:dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org>>
 wrote:
With regard to Siemens, given the large number of certificates and the 
disruption that massive revocations will have on their infrastructure, what 
does this community expect them to do?

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 On Behalf Of Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
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To: Jonathan Rudenberg <jonat...@titanous.com<mailto:jonat...@titanous.com>>; 
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Subject: RE: Certificates with less than 64 bits of entropy

Hi Jonathan,

InfoCert's sub CA was revoked on August 1, 2017. We'll reach out to Siemens. 
They moved to Quovadis a while ago and are no longer issuing from that Sub CA.

Jeremy

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Subject: Re: Certificates with less than 64 bits of entropy


> On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:20, Jonathan Rudenberg via dev-security-policy 
> <dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org<mailto:dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org>>
>  wrote:
>
> QuoVadis (560)
>    Siemens Issuing CA Internet Server 2016 (560)
>
> D-TRUST (224)
>    D-TRUST SSL Class 3 CA 1 2009 (178)
>    D-TRUST SSL Class 3 CA 1 EV 2009 (45)
>    D-TRUST Root Class 3 CA 2 EV 2009 (1)
>
> DigiCert (85)
>    Siemens Issuing CA Class Internet Server 2013 (82)
>    InfoCert Web Certification Authority (3)
>
> Izenpe S.A. (62)
>    EAEko Herri Administrazioen CA - CA AAPP Vascas (2) (62)
>
> Government of The Netherlands, PKIoverheid (Logius) (55)
>    Digidentity Services CA - G2 (55)
>
> Government of Turkey, Kamu Sertifikasyon Merkezi (Kamu SM) (38)
>    Cihaz Sertifikası Hizmet Sağlayıcı - Sürüm 4 (38)

It looks like my summary missed one QuoVadis intermediate:

Bayerische SSL-CA-2016-01 (3)

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