On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 4:01:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017, Ryan Hurst via dev-security-policy wrote:
> 
> > The issues with EV are much larger than UI. It needs to be revisited and a 
> > honest and achievable set of goals need to be established and the processes 
> > and procedures used pre-issuance and post-issuance need to be defined in 
> > support those goals. Until thats been done I can not imagine any browser 
> > would invest in new UI and education of users for this capability.
> 
> While I agree that EV does not solve world peace, can you tell me what
> is wrong with the firefox approach of showing EV? That is, browsers
> hiding the real hostname with EV seems to behave wrong, and should be
> fixed. This seems unrelated to other noble goals of giving users improved
> security. It seems you are conflating many things, then say it is too
> much work and lets just scrap it.
> 
> Thus, so far I see reason for some browsers to fix their UI. I can see
> reasons for EV to improve. I see no reason to further confuse users
> by removing EV without a successor.

EV adds unnecessary information to the UI that can easily mislead users into 
believing a site is not as it stands, and condition users away from the only 
meaningful mitigation - checking the URL (and that itself is not perfect, but 
it's not helped by EV either)

That is, showing EV is wrong.
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