The original incident report contained all of the details of the initial 
filing.  The additional, separated reports are trickling in as I get enough 
info to post something in reply to the updated questions. As the questions 
asked have changed from the original 7 in the Mozilla incident report, getting 
the info back takes time. Especially during the holiday season. We’re also 
working to close out as many without an exception as possible. Note that the 
deadline has not passed yet so all of these incident reports are theoretical 
(and not actually incidents) until Jan 15th. I gave the community the total 
potential number of certificates impacted and the total number of customers so 
we can have a community discussion on the overall risk and get public comments 
into the process before the deadline passes.  I’m unaware of any policy at 
Mozilla or Google that provides guidance on how to file expected issues before 
they happen. If there is, I’d gladly follow that. 

 

I’ve started 3 bugs while closing out two additional customers. I have enough 
info to file maybe 1-2 more reports. The rest will probably be filed after the 
new year when people are back working. 

 

From: Ryan Sleevi <r...@sleevi.com> 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:24 AM
To: Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com>
Cc: r...@sleevi.com; dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Underscore characters

 

 

 

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 1:03 PM Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com 
<mailto:jeremy.row...@digicert.com> > wrote:

Much better to treat this question as “We know X is going to happen. What’s the 
best way to mitigate the concerns of the community?”  Exception was the wrong 
word in my original post. I should have used “What would you like us to do to 
mitigate when we miss the Jan 15ht deadline?” instead. Apologies for the 
confusion there.

 

As I tried to highlight several times during early discussions, it's not really 
ideal to have each of these trickle in over time.

 

DigiCert has apparently decided that for 14-15 customers it has sufficient 
information to know that X is going to happen, based on their risk analysis. 
Why are we seeing bugs trickle in, such as 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1516545 ?

 

It would seem uncontroversial to suggest that, as part of the risk analysis 
that DigiCert is claiming has already been done, that it has all the 
information for an incident report for all of the customers it expects to not 
revoke certificates for. If it doesn't, then it suggests that the risk analysis 
is not being done responsibly, and being outsourced to the community to perform.


Should we expect another 12 bugs to be filed? If so, when? If not, why?

 

As mentioned, if treating this as part of a "Responding to underscores" 
incident, then this has the effect of being a slow trickle of an incomplete 
incident report overall, and incomplete remediation plan, and those tend not to 
bode well. I don't think it'd really be engaging with mitigating to, say, file 
a bug on Jan 14th - so how do we move the discussion forward and make sure the 
facts are available?

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