Hi Ryan,

The answer to your questions.

A remediation plan is only useful in cases of slight CA non-compliance to
the rules set forth by the root store policy.

A remediation plans in cases of slight CA non-compliance provides assurance
of CA commitment to compliance.

A CA under investigation of serious non-compliance with detailed documented
evidence of non-compliance incidents has reach the stage of no return.

A remediation plan in the cases of serious non-compliance is a reference
document in the case of new root inclusion as documented evidence of
commitment to compliance.

The CA roots should be removed in the case of  serious non-compliance and
asked to reapply for inclusion again to the root store with new roots and
new commitment to compliance with new audits from a different auditor and
reformed practices and management.

Thank you

Burton

On Wed, 27 Jan 2021, 19:54 Ryan Sleevi, <r...@sleevi.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:45 PM Burton <j...@0.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> I included the remediation plan in the proposal because a CA will mostly
>> always include a remediation plan when they reach the stage of serious
>> non-compliance investigation by root store policy owners.
>>
>
> Sure, but I was more asking: are you aware of any point in the past where
> the remediation plan has been valuable, useful or appropriate? I'm not.
>

> The expectation is continuous remediation, so any remediation plan at a
> later stage seems too little, too late, right? The very intentional goal of
> the incident reporting was to transition to a continuous improvement
> process, where the CA was evaluated based on their
> contemporaneous remediation to incidents, rather than waiting until things
> get so bad they pile up and a remediation plan is used.
>
> So I'm trying to understand what a remediation plan would include, during
> discussion, that wouldn't (or, more explicitly, shouldn't) have been
> included in the incident reports as they happened?
>
>>
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