On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 1:41 PM, lkcl luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> this is all really good stuff, jim.  but i have to reiterate: WHERE
>> IS IT BEING FORMALLY DOCUMENTED?  please don't say "in the mailing
>> list".
>
> Once we've had a bit more of a discussion here on the list, I think we
> should document everything both as part of the OWA documentation, as
> well as part of the general B2G documentation. But at this point I'm
> not sure that there is enough consensus to start editing wikis.

 not being funny or anything, but consensus be damned!  can you
remember everything that's going on?  because i can't!  there's some
superb technical input and absolutely critical ideas being discussed
here; i'm used to remembering lots of different issues but even *i*
can't remember them all.

 let me try and illustrate, by doing a recap.

 * someone mentioned "do we need to put ACLs on eval()"?
 * someone else came up with the brilliant idea of putting words into
dialog boxes rather than "yes" or "no", i think it was you
 * the original post that you wrote was something like 3,000 words
long: i actually read it all and came up with 3 separate areas which
need discussion and expansion, that might have expanded to 4
 * my reply was probably another 3,000 words, i mentioned things like
SE/Linux as a potential solution *if* certain criteria were met, i
also mentioned debian distro infrastructure as a way to solve one of
the _other_ requirements.

 in other words, even with only .. what.... 15 messages on this topic,
it's already getting out of hand... and this is *security* being
discussed.  even in 1 week's worth of discussion i can't remember who
mentioned what.

 and the reason i can't remember it is because it's all in an
uncontrolled and unstructured format that has no top-level headings
which are a crucial critical memory-aid.

 if this was a "User Interface" discussion i'd go "ahh fuckit: not important."

 ... but for something as critical and fundamental as the security of
an entire operating system and its applications management
infrastructure, which, if you get it wrong will result in a repeat of
the android monoculture nightmare or the windows monoculture
nightmare, it would be irresponsible of me _not_ to say "i really
think the mozilla foundation needs to take a _little_ bit more care
over how the security of B2G is discussed, designed and structured".

l.
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