> By implementing quirks mode, Gecko the net effect is an
> /increase/ in demand for standards-compliant pages (this was Gerv's point).
>
> Camino's UA string change would also increase the Camino's user-base.
> But it /encourages/ webmasters to not check for Camino since even if
>Camino's user base increased, there would be no reason to not continue
> checking for "Firefox."

This is exactly the double-standard I was trying to highlight, even
more succinctly stated. You are saying that being tolerant of people
doing the wrong thing discourages people from doing the wrong thing
when Firefox does it, but encourages people to do the wrong thing when
Camino does it.

The rest of your arguments are mostly about numbers; Gervase made a
flat statement that it's impossible to both believe in promoting an
ideal and to implement a workaround that lessens pressure on people to
conform to the ideal, and arguments about the number of sites involved
isn't really relevant to absolutist statements about idealism.

If people want to hold us to a double standard, then they will, and
I'm under no illusions that I'm going to convince everyone that that's
the case here. I just want to be very clear that I see it as such,
since I think that if Gervase is going to make sweeping assertions
about our beliefs in a public forum, our perspective should be clearly
stated.

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