I want step back a little. I don't view this as just changing our issue
tracker. I want to move to GitHub issues as I see a lot of benefit in using
one tool to manage issues, view/browse code, and review pull requests.  One
tool makes contributing to open source so much easier.  I think it will
become the norm over time. This doesn't mean projects need to be locked
into GitHub. Gitlab provides the same thing. I understand there are
switching costs so I am on board with a trial. However, I think the
benefits are worth the switch. You can fight this trend but I think it's
like fighting the move from Subversion to Git.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 2/15/18 6:18 PM, Christopher wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 5:08 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/15/18 4:56 PM, Christopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:55 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/18 4:17 PM, Mike Drob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do we do if the trial is wildly successful? Is there a migration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> plan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for our currently open issues? We have almost 1000 of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Keith said in the other thread, we don't need to have all the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> answers up
>>>>>
>>>>>> front.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're right, we don't need to have all of the answers up front.
>>>>>> This is one that I'd like to have some thought put into though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's lots of things that are fine to handle as we approach it, but
>>>>>>
>>>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>>> one seems like it will lead to us having split issue trackers
>>>>>>
>>>>> for_years_
>>>
>>>> down the road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> This is a good point I hadn't yet considered.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's not only the migration question that eventually needs to be
>>>>> answered, but an immediate question of how will we determine when we
>>>>> can
>>>>> release a version of Accumulo? Are there conventions/features on the GH
>>>>> issues side that will provide some logical analog to the fixVersion of
>>>>> JIRA?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> These are all great questions... that could be answered with a trial...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Shall I assume then that you are volunteering to handle all issue
>>> management across the disparate systems for all releases?
>>>
>>> A trial is a good idea to determine _if we like the system_ and want to
>>> migrate to it. It's not a substitute for determining if the system is
>>> _viable_.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm of a different opinion: I already know I like GitHub issues and want
>> to
>> migrate to it. What I don't know is if it is viable for Accumulo's needs.
>>
>
>
> Glad you like GH issues, but that isn't not what is being discussed here.
> The matter at hand is figuring out the logistics of *how* do we move to a
> different issue tracker in a manner that doesn't derail the project
> management of a fully-distributed team.
>
> I'm worried because I feel like there are valid concerns being brought up
> here without acknowledgement of the impact of those who only participate
> with Accumulo digitally.
>

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