I want step back a little. I don't view this as just changing our issue tracker. I want to move to GitHub issues as I see a lot of benefit in using one tool to manage issues, view/browse code, and review pull requests. One tool makes contributing to open source so much easier. I think it will become the norm over time. This doesn't mean projects need to be locked into GitHub. Gitlab provides the same thing. I understand there are switching costs so I am on board with a trial. However, I think the benefits are worth the switch. You can fight this trend but I think it's like fighting the move from Subversion to Git.
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: > On 2/15/18 6:18 PM, Christopher wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 5:08 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> On 2/15/18 4:56 PM, Christopher wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:55 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2/15/18 4:17 PM, Mike Drob wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What do we do if the trial is wildly successful? Is there a migration >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> plan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for our currently open issues? We have almost 1000 of them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As Keith said in the other thread, we don't need to have all the >>>>>>> >>>>>> answers up >>>>> >>>>>> front. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're right, we don't need to have all of the answers up front. >>>>>> This is one that I'd like to have some thought put into though. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's lots of things that are fine to handle as we approach it, but >>>>>> >>>>> this >>>>> >>>>>> one seems like it will lead to us having split issue trackers >>>>>> >>>>> for_years_ >>> >>>> down the road. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> This is a good point I hadn't yet considered. >>>>> >>>>> There's not only the migration question that eventually needs to be >>>>> answered, but an immediate question of how will we determine when we >>>>> can >>>>> release a version of Accumulo? Are there conventions/features on the GH >>>>> issues side that will provide some logical analog to the fixVersion of >>>>> JIRA? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> These are all great questions... that could be answered with a trial... >>>> >>>> >>> Shall I assume then that you are volunteering to handle all issue >>> management across the disparate systems for all releases? >>> >>> A trial is a good idea to determine _if we like the system_ and want to >>> migrate to it. It's not a substitute for determining if the system is >>> _viable_. >>> >>> >> I'm of a different opinion: I already know I like GitHub issues and want >> to >> migrate to it. What I don't know is if it is viable for Accumulo's needs. >> > > > Glad you like GH issues, but that isn't not what is being discussed here. > The matter at hand is figuring out the logistics of *how* do we move to a > different issue tracker in a manner that doesn't derail the project > management of a fully-distributed team. > > I'm worried because I feel like there are valid concerns being brought up > here without acknowledgement of the impact of those who only participate > with Accumulo digitally. >