On 30 January 2014 23:42, jgenender <[email protected]> wrote:

> rajdavies wrote
> > Apache isn't exactly the best place for innovation. Just look at this
> > whole thread, imagine trying to create a UI based around consensus - it
> > wouldn't happen - so it doesn't seem odd to me that the ASF wouldn't be
> > there first choice.
>
> Can you please expound on why Apache is not exactly the best place for
> innovation?


I think this thread is a perfect example really. Just re-read the mails
above if anyone needs more proof.

A vote starts to move some old crusty code for a pretty crappy console
(which the main developers and maintainers have kinda given up on) to a
different directory in subversion on a different release cycle; so a
community can either form around it or it can eventually be moved to the
Attic. Queue lots of the usual attacks on Red Hat folks from the usual
suspects from Talend & Savoir who every chance they get spew bile, personal
attacks, conspiracy theories, question our integrity, professionalism and
motives. Its gone way beyond being irritating and offensive really; its now
becoming downright hilarious. You go guys! Keep up the amazing work, am
sure ActiveMQ developers and users are really loving this stuff!

In comparison - we've had no bullshit at all on github. Its a breath of
fresh air, amazing tooling and its great fun. There's a very low barrier to
entry and we seem to already have got more contributions at hawtio from
folks than we've ever got for the ActiveMQ web console.

Incidentally I don't know if you've noticed; Apache isn't the centre of the
universe. There's some amazing opens source going on elsewhere - mostly on
github - e.g. docker, angularjs and vertx to name but 3 off the top of my
head are huge game changers.

Anyway keep the personal attacks coming Talend & Savoir dudes; it just
keeps getting funnier!

I'm off to stroke my white cat...

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James
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