This incubator line is a red herring. HornetQ wanted to consolidate communities 
together - they didn't need more committers - their community ( in the Apache 
sense of the word) was already bigger than ActiveMQ. What I don't understand is 
that you actually agreed to this - and backed a proposal made by someone not 
from Red Hat to put into a repo called ActiveMQ 6 - and  now you start calling 
foul? go back and read the history.



> On 27 Mar 2015, at 15:28, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Everything you mentioned, all the code changes e.g. "merge good stuff from 
> 5.x into the code donation",  can very well be done in the incubator. The 
> discussion I am trying to have is about the *community*, core value of the 
> "Apache Way". The sooner that is understood the better.
> 
> Hadrian
> 
>> On 03/27/2015 10:52 AM, Andy Taylor wrote:
>> There has been a lot said about the intent of the HornetQ donation so
>> let me just clear up a few things.
>> 
>> Regarding the naming, the idea to use ActiveMQ6 for the repo name came
>> from this discussion thread:
>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Possible-HornetQ-donation-to-ActiveMQ-td4682971.html.
>> The original idea was to reuse the Apollo name but then consensus
>> emerged around activemq-6. The idea to use version 6.0.0 followed from
>> the repo name. Maybe 10.0.0-M1 would have been a better choice to signal
>> a large change and leave room for 5.x to grow.
>> 
>> Since agreement was made to accept the donation [1] [2], lots of work
>> has been done to get ready for an initial release, this involved
>> rebranding, removing all CatX dependencies and a general clean up.
>> 
>> The intent is to merge the good stuff of 5.x with the code donation and
>> support migration. There has been some good progress here. We have
>> preliminary Openwire support for backward compatibility with 5.x clients
>> and work has started to address some of the feature gaps, e.g., adding
>> auto creation of destinations and reusing the ActiveMQ Filter code.
>> There’s obviously more work to do but this is just the initial release
>> that completes the IP clearance process. Going forward, I’d like to see
>> us collectively develop a feature backlog for subsequent milestone
>> releases. At some point in the future, the community might decide that
>> the new core becomes the primary deliverable from the project but that
>> should happen organically with no rush.
>> 
>> [1]
>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Accept-hornetq-code-grant-and-active-committers-td4685833.html
>> [2]
>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/RESULT-VOTE-Accept-hornetq-code-grant-and-active-committers-td4686006.html
>> 

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