+1 (Please pardon my reference to Buddhism here)
In buddhist practice, we remind ourselves of many things every time we practice. One of those is stated this way, "forgive me for divisive actions," and, "I promise to avoid divisive actions." We all do it, whether with intent or not, but in the long run, it only leads to anger, frustration, ... Suffering. All the heated arguments here that attack all the value of all the great work of the past done by the folks on this project is truly sad. I only hope that there are enough folks either not listening, or believing that this is just one large "vent" so this conversation doesn't drive folks away from ActiveMQ. A culture of respect and honest interest in technical concerns, impacts on users and others across the community, and a focus on moving things forward -- that's a vision I dream of when I think of being a core member of the ActiveMQ community. I long for more discussions like ones I have had with Hadrian - in which we actually talk about ideas and work together to make a solution better than either one of us would have made alone. It's awesome. I highly recommend everyone to try it. Please move past the fighting. Every foolish thing any one of us has ever said can be forgiven. Every one here is valuable, and can bring that value to ActiveMQ - it's our actions and the impact they have on ActiveMQ - both the product and the community - that are our measure. Let's strive for the ideal - working together (not without disagreement) - bringing out valid concerns and providing valid responses, considering impacts and deciding which to accept, and how to minimize where possible. Then work toward resolution through decision-making and acceptance that no path forward will be perfect, and all paths forward that are worth taking require effort - true effort. With this said, I'm going back to focusing on other parts of my life at the moment as this entire discussion has drained so much of my energy for a week or two, and those parts have been neglected. Please PM me if my input is valuable and desired, or my absence is somehow blocking, before I return more prominently (probably after ApacheCon), when it will be time to get the next patch release of ActiveMQ built (I will do all the grunt work, although help is appreciated - thanks to Hadrian again for his past help in creating releases)! -- View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-HornetQ-ActiveMQ-s-next-generation-tp4693781p4694603.html Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.