On 04/09/2015 02:13 PM, Jim Gomes wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. That helps. > > So, I guess we could discuss the merits of keeping the Board Reports on our > wiki, as it does seem somewhat redundant. As long as they exist on the > wiki, it would be helpful to have a better indexing system. > > Perhaps Hiram can offer background as to the purpose and intent of the > Board Reports being published on the wiki? > > Best, > Jim > > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jim Gomes <jgo...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the link, Dan. I didn't know those were there. I think the >> main >>> difference here is that link is to the Board Minutes, whereas the >> ActiveMQ >>> wiki has the Board Report. They seem to be identical, but will they >> always >>> be? >> Possibly not, but it would NORMALLY be because the board has decided >> something should be private (like names of people being voted on or >> something) in which case it should likely not have been in our public >> version as well. Doesn't happen too often. Also, they would remove any >> "wiki formatting" type things that wouldn't look right in the text form >> they use. >> >> >>> And even if they are identical, do we still need to have the redundancy >>> for trace-ability? For instance, if the Board, for whatever reason, >> claims >>> they didn't receive the report, we have documentation on the wiki showing >>> the Report was produced. >> I don't really think the board would care if one was produced or not. >> It's the chair's job to make sure the board gets the report. If they >> don't get it, they ask the chair to report again next month. If the chair >> consistently has issues, they'd likely replace the chair. Another thing >> to keep in mind: it's the Chairs job to create the report that reflects >> the state of the community. The chair MAY include the wider community in >> creating that report, but that's not a requirement. Thus, saying "the >> community produced one, the chair didn't submit it" really wouldn't matter >> at all. >> >> Dan >> >> >>> That's me just trying to understand the reason for the Board Report >> page's >>> existence. >>> >>> -Jim >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> No "objection", but why don't we just delete the page and point at the >>>> official records: >>>> >>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ActiveMQ.html >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jim Gomes <jgo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I recently went out to look at previous Board Reports ( >>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/apache-activemq-board-reports.html) and >> found >>>>> the current sorting method difficult to deal with. Unless we are >> required >>>>> to use the page naming format, I would like to change it to the >> following >>>>> format: >>>>> >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.01 January >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.04 April >>>>> Apache ActiveMQ Board Report - 2009.07 July >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> I would then set it to sort in reverse order so the most recent report >> is >>>>> automatically at the top, and they descend in chronological order. The >>>>> current sorting puts the most recent board report (2015/02) in the >> middle >>>>> of the pack, making it difficult to find. Good luck trying to find the >>>>> report directly prior to that. >>>>> >>>>> I will make the changes, unless anyone has other suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Jim >>>> -- >>>> Daniel Kulp >>>> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog >>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Daniel Kulp >> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com >> >> I believe that he does this as a place to create and edit them and allow for other members to contribute if they so desire before he submits them. I've edited a couple in the past prior to submission to add CMS or NMS release notes.
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