Victor,

So just wondering.  From what I understand, docker simply pulls the README
from the current directory.  Couldn't we create a docker subdirectory in
the repo?

John

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 7:17 PM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear devs,
>
> I'm afraid I cannot create a good enough docker image as two constraints
> clash:
>
> - Cannot use a different repository (as per John's)
> - Should have a proper docker specific README.md file in the docker hub
> page (as per my personal preference).
>
> This won't change unless, the issue 292
> <https://github.com/docker/hub-feedback/issues/292> in docker hub gets
> fixed.
>
> I'll keep an eye on the issue in case it gets fixed (feb 18 they wrote
> <https://github.com/docker/hub-feedback/issues/292#issuecomment-185811039>:
> *We
> have a plan in place and will provide an update as soon as we can*) , and
> will keep maintaining my personal docker image.
>
> Regards
>
>
> 2016-08-14 10:31 GMT-07:00 Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi John, devs
> >
> > I hear your expectations and I'm following option two, the
> thrift/marmotta
> > approach for that reason.
> >
> > There is some maintenance I'd like to happen to avoid ending up with
> > images like thrift, that only has *latest
> > <https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/thrift/tags/> *and not one tag per each
> > version as I'd like it to have. I can update RELEASING.md
> > <https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/master/RELEASING.md> in
> > the same PR with some very short instructions on how to change the
> version
> > in the Dockerfile (very simple) on every release.
> >
> > The whole *latest is meant to be SNAPSHOT* is an open and broader
> > discussion. But if the greater apache, as it seems, consider latest is a
> > non repeatable SNAPSHOT build, I'm happy with it.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > 2016-08-14 9:06 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
> >
> >> Hey Victor,
> >>
> >> To clarify.  I'm expecting that a build of artemis results in the
> >> creation (and publishing) of a docker container.  This container
> represents
> >> the underlying build artifact.  This is known as the "latest" in docker.
> >> When doing a release, i expect something similar.
> >>
> >> The ASF only does automatic docker builds.  Not manual.  Based on input
> I
> >> got from our infra, its never a separate repo, always in the same repo.
> >> Granted we don't have a ton of examples yet, but that seems to be the
> go-to
> >> (and realistically represents a true CI/CD pattern for completely
> running
> >> apps like this).
> >>
> >> The actual creation of the container is a separate step in jenkins.  So
> >> once the current dockerfile is donated, pointing to a different location
> >> for the binary, I can carry out the steps w/ infra to setup the docker
> >> builds.  There shouldn't be a reason to point to a remote location for
> the
> >> binary as a result, it'll all be local to the workspace.  I'll probably
> >> need to setup some kind of job to build releases, but shouldn't be a big
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> You can find a few examples out on our ASF hub page -
> >> https://hub.docker.com/u/apache/.  Thrift is the most curious one from
> >> my POV.  It actually builds thrift on the image, and uses an entry
> point to
> >> allow extension (e.g. execution of thrift).
> >>
> >> Also apologies, I missed that this fell off the dev list.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 1:30 AM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi John,
> >>>
> >>> You mentioned building SNAPSHOTs and it sounds great to me. The problem
> >>> is that one does not just curl the latest version of a SNAPSHOT. There
> are
> >>> many rolling versions
> >>> <
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/apache/activemq/apache-artemis/1.4.0-SNAPSHOT
> >
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> Also SNAPSHOTs would generate an interesting scenario when releasing
> >>> versions, as the docker file for a snapshot would be different than the
> >>> dockerfile of a RELEASE. Therefor, someone (I can do it if necessary)
> has
> >>> to make sure the Dockerfile is updated accordingly by taking the
> dockerfile
> >>> from the latest release version (or uncomment code perhaps). Therefor
> I'd
> >>> discard the obvious workarounds (see below two examples):
> >>>
> >>>    - Curlling the maven metadata
> >>>    <
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/snapshots/org/apache/activemq/apache-artemis/1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml
> >
> >>>    of the SNAPSHOT, and with xmlstarlet extract the latest version.
> >>>    - Using the nexus api
> >>>    <
> https://repository.apache.org/service/local/artifact/maven/redirect?r=snapshots&g=org.apache.activemq&a=apache-artemis&v=LATEST
> >
> >>>    (although I haven been able to make it work, but just spent 10m).
> Tied to
> >>>    an specific maven repo software. Unclear to me how to validate
> >>>
> >>> Even if we forget about the SNAPSHOTS, there has to be a clear release
> >>> mechanism if the dockerfile lives inside of the main repo. Because it
> does
> >>> download releases versions from an external site (not from the
> reactor) and
> >>> validates against a manually given signature.
> >>>
> >>> The approaches I see are:
> >>>
> >>>    1. Non automatic dockerhub build. Build and upload to dockerhub
> >>>    using a maven plugin. Would ease maintenance. Users of dockerhub
> prefer
> >>>    automatic builds, but overall it would be great experience both for
> users
> >>>    and developers. Would probably make
> >>>    2.  Automatic dockerhub build that actually builds Artemis in
> >>>    dockerhub (skipping tests). The image that is meant to be as small
> as
> >>>    possible, it will likely have some leftovers, probably not to many
> if done
> >>>    carefully. This is the same approach marmotta
> >>>    <https://github.com/apache/marmotta/blob/develop/Dockerfile> uses.
> >>>    3. Use a different repo just as it is right now and ignore
> >>>    SNAPSHOTS. Proven to work and I'd say 99% of the dockerhub projects
> work
> >>>    like that.
> >>>
> >>> 3 is the current path but I'll discard it for one single reason: no
> >>> other apache project seems to follow it.
> >>>
> >>> Personally I don't want to go through the 1 route, as it would require
> >>> the apache dockerhub credentials to be store in the apache CI. And I'm
> sure
> >>> someone, somewhere would have problems with that. Otherwise is a
> perfectly
> >>> valid approach.
> >>>
> >>> So unless you have any other idea, I'd go for the option 2 as soon as I
> >>> can.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2016-08-12 19:58 GMT-07:00 Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi John,
> >>>>
> >>>> Apologies I have just arrived back from a travel. I'll put it together
> >>>> this very weekend and I'll let you know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the help.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2016-08-12 18:56 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hey Victor,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just wondering if you were able to get this together? Unfortunately,
> >>>>> the ActiveMQ permissions don't let me assign to you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:41 PM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Nice! Feel free to assign to me : "vromero".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2016-07-29 15:10 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, I created a ticket in JIRA for this:
> https://issues.apache.or
> >>>>>>> g/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-658
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:58 PM John D. Ament <
> >>>>>>> john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Victor,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Basically, that's a working example of how ASF does docker builds.
> >>>>>>>> They setup an automated build per branch.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:37 PM Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi John,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you! Excellent stuff, I'll take care of it. BTW yes I'm in
> >>>>>>>>> dev@active.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The only thing I don't fully comprehend is the thrift one. How
> >>>>>>>>> does thrift applies here?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2016-07-29 13:29 GMT-07:00 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com
> >:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ok, I just dug around a bit on how we have docker setup.
> >>>>>>>>>> Everything is an automated build, so we can have it build based
> on the code
> >>>>>>>>>> in Artemis.  I would recommend as a first step to raise a PR to
> contribute
> >>>>>>>>>> the dockerfile and entry point to the artemis repo.  I can
> setup a build
> >>>>>>>>>> then in docker hub to build our master.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Some minor changes:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Instead of downloading from the mirrors, download the artifact
> >>>>>>>>>> from the repository, this way we can do 1.4 snapshots in
> addition to the
> >>>>>>>>>> released binaries.
> >>>>>>>>>> - You may want to base it on thrift, https://github.com/apa
> >>>>>>>>>> che/thrift
> >>>>>>>>>> - Make sure ASF license headers are present.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:06 PM John D. Ament <
> >>>>>>>>>> john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Victor,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you already subscribed on dev@activemq?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Basically from what I understand, we do automated builds into
> >>>>>>>>>>> the docker hub.  So we wouldn't directly bring in your image,
> but if you
> >>>>>>>>>>> have the source code we can implement it as a partof our build.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you use to build your docker container?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 3:52 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Contributing to the Apache Docker Account
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: Bruce Snyder <bruce.sny...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>, <dev@activemq.apache.org
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But yes I'll take care of it
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2016 15:51, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that's an infra question
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2016 15:47, "Bruce Snyder" <bruce.sny...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well so far nobody has responded. So I have no idea who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> controls it. We need to find out who controls access to the
> ASF account at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Hub.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Victor <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bruce,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any information would be highly appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-07-13 15:43 GMT-07:00 Bruce Snyder <bsny...@apache.org
> >:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John, can you help out Victor with his request to
> contribute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his image to the ASF account at Docker Hub? It looks like
> you were the last
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one to respond to Victor's request who has knowledge of
> the ASF account at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Hub.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anyone else who can help Victor get his Docker
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image contributed so that it can be listed under the ASF
> account at Docker
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hub?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Ted Husted <human-respo...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:52 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Contributing to the Apache Docker Account
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Victor <victor.rom...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: bsny...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your inquiry.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Artemis is a subproject of ActiveMQ, the best person to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact with this question is the ActiveMQ PMC Chair.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe Bruce Snyder is the current PMC Chair.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may also wish to refer to the project's Contributing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * https://activemq.apache.org/contributing.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps, Ted Husted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member Emeritus, Apache Software Foundation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * http://www.apache.org/foundation/preFAQ.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * http://apache.org/foundation/faq.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Victor <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> victor.rom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Apache,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Sep 27, 2015 I have  an Apache Artemis docker image
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on docker hub
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://hub.docker.com/r/vromero/activemq-artemis/> (>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700 installations, 1 pull request, 1 stackoverflow and no
> complains).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have already shared it with the Apache Artemis team and
> it seems to be a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common agreement (between the few that replied the thread
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/activemq-dev/201604.mbox/%3CCAOqetn8FG_Yz+eqFXuE=oxd1hkjepbgolqy63eq3a22epun...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> >)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if contributed it should be in the Apache docker
> user.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although there seems to be no specific Apache contact
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to Docker. That is why I'm writting you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm specifically looking for someone to ask for any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific the process and artifacts that might be
> required. I already signed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the contributors agreement, I'm looking for things like
> special
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation, move it to a given repo, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u35",
> "\@0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)S;GED9
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7)\`87!A8VAE+F]R9PH\`");'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>

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