Clebert, your goal should not be an ActiveMQ 6. IMHO totally short sighted.
Why not shoot for making Artemis the best messaging system under the
sun. It won't matter how it's called then. This kind of looks like
desperation to get adoption via whatever means, screw the consequences
for others. I am telling you again, we've been here before, we know what
happened. We learned.
Cheers,
Hadrian
On 12/06/2017 04:40 PM, Clebert Suconic wrote:
I didn’t mean to be negative or emotional.. sorry it’s being a hard day for me…
all I want to clarify is if we would need 100% consensus in the future
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:34 PM, jgenender <jgenen...@apache.org> wrote:
clebertsuconic wrote
Lets make this project work in harmony for everyone so we can work
towards
consensus for what is AMQ6 and when.
Harmony and Unanimous consensus is something pretty rare in humanity.
Thats a pretty sad view. Nobody said unanimous. Harmony is certainly not
that hard. But where I think the elephant is where those votes are aligned.
That should be a much bigger concern.
clebertsuconic wrote
If you help promote Artemis, work towards the roadmap.. and
everything.. there's still the question:
1 year, 2 years, 3 years from now... aren't we going to be back to this
square?
I just want to know the terms ahead of time.. is this fixable? I
believe one year from now.. we will -1s from usually -1s people, no
matter how complete we are on the Roadmap.
Who can answer that? I think minimally it needs to be easily migrated. At
this stage it certainly cannot... at least not from my experience. We
cannot turn our back on the majority of this community who just so happens
to use ActiveMQ 5.
Its also kind of sad that you have relinquished to thinking -1s are -1s
forever. I believe I told you point blank I'm all for Artemis being AMQ6...
"When its ready". What is ready? It was stated many times in this thread.
I believe the -1s in this thread all said the same thing. Get more people
using it and have a good compatible migration path so we can be consistent
with all of our major version releases.
Artemis is getting what it wants. More prominence and support from the AMQ
project and a commitment to migration path.
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