It seems I was assuming that calling destroy queue via management API has
greater precedence than configuration setting. With that being said I will
just update the client docs, so the API doesn't confuse users anymore.

To summarize:
If you create a queue with *auto-create-address *flag set to true, and then
try to destroy it, the flag *autoDeleteAddress *will work only, and only if
the broker configuration has *auto-delete-addresses* flag set to true.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:31 AM Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If auto-delete is disabled, the address should not be removed.
>
> If you had a case where it was removed, it was a bug.
>
> The flag was respected before.. but perhaps there was a situation it was
> not.
>
>
> You telling me to disrespect the flag and always remove it.. would be
> an oxymoron.. I would just pretty much ignore the setting.
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:56 PM Havret <h4v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This particular queue is not defined in broker.xml. I'm not sure if 2.19
> is
> > semantically correct, as having the same configuration I'm getting
> > different results than with 2.18 and previous versions. I understand that
> > removing the address was decoupled from removing the queue, but in this
> > particular case the address is never deleted.
> >
> > I'm gessing that changes related to
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-3502,
> auto-delete-addresses
> > flag, and management API delete queue (with autoDeleteAddress set to
> true)
> > don't play nice together.
> >
> > My expectation would be that the address will be eventually deleted even
> > though the auto-delete-addresses flag is disabled in broker
> configuration.
> > This is an imperative API call, at least from the client perspective.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 5:46 AM Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I believe 2.19 is semantically correct to the configuration you are
> > > showing.
> > >
> > > We also had another change related to not delete queues defined on
> > > broker.xml.  Perhaps that’s the problem ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 9:38 AM Havret <h4v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > >
> > > > I had the same broker configuration for 2.18.0 and the test passed
> just
> > > > fine, so I don't think that the matter of new defaults. The queue is
> > > > removed just fine (
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/6cee91547c18194330062a48c3b02c7c385457ff/test/ArtemisNetClient.IntegrationTests/TopologyManagement/DeleteQueueSpec.cs#L68
> > > > ),
> > > > the problem is that the management api seems to ignore
> autoDeleteAddress
> > > > parameter and the second assertion fails (
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/6cee91547c18194330062a48c3b02c7c385457ff/test/ArtemisNetClient.IntegrationTests/TopologyManagement/DeleteQueueSpec.cs#L70
> > > > )
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Havret
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:54 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The answer for that is in your configuration:
> > > > >
> > > > > <auto-delete-queues>false</auto-delete-queues>
> > > > > <auto-delete-addresses>false</auto-delete-addresses>
> > > > > <auto-delete-created-queues>false</auto-delete-created-queues>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > if you create a new broker configuration now, these auto-deletes
> are
> > > > > turned off.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did that because I have been recommending people in production to
> > > > > turn them off.. so I thought I should just turn'em off by
> default...
> > > > >
> > > > > I couldn't change the default default, but I added these to new
> > > > > configurations...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > if you need to test auto-delete, you need to set them true.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice that since 2.19 now these will perform a scan before an
> actual
> > > > > delete would happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is because I had seen a production issue where a consumer that
> > > > > was up to date, disconnected (connection failure), the close
> deleted
> > > > > the queue immediately, while immediately it caused to another
> queue to
> > > > > be created... in one cirtcunstance the queue was created but not
> the
> > > > > address, creating a mess..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to fixing it properly without adding the delays, but I
> could
> > > > > not come up with a scenario that would always work perfectly..
> because
> > > > > the client will query for the queue, and then issue a create
> > > > > separately.. there's always an issue between the queue and
> create...
> > > > > so... the best is to not remove the queue immediately any more...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 4:33 PM Havret <hav...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying to update the test suite of ArtemisNetClient to use
> > > ActiveMQ
> > > > > > Artemis 2.19.0, but one of the tests starts failing on 2.19.0:
> > > > > > Should_delete_queue_alongside_with_auto_created_address -->
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/pull/300/checks?check_run_id=3943848841
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The test creates a queue using the management api and then
> removes it
> > > > > with
> > > > > > flag autoDeleteAddress set to true. The queue is removed but the
> > > > address
> > > > > > isn't. I've looked over the release notes, but I didn't spot
> anything
> > > > > that
> > > > > > could indicate this change of behavior. Is this a regression, or
> was
> > > > it a
> > > > > > deliberate change?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robbie suggested that it might be related to
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-3502
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried to adjust the test:
> > > > > > - I set *address-queue-scan-period* to 100
> > > > > > - I wait up to 5 seconds until the address is removed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But the test still is failing. My broker configuration is as
> follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/fc256b2a3784447fa4feadea58b62f58d1fcabfd/test/artemis/broker.xml
> > > > > > Is it possible that this new setting interferes with
> > > > > > *auto-delete-addresses *set to *false*?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Havret
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic
>

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