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On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:03 PM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> wrote:

> I've got a test for this and a fix. I'll send a PR tomorrow.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:46 PM Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I misunderstood it before.  Apologize.
> >
> > I am away this week. I will take a look on this next week if no one gets
> > there before me.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:07 AM Havret <hav...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, that's the issue, I mentioned it at least a few times in this
> thread
> > > and the previous one.
> > >
> > > For reference, the test looks as follows:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/af9085dbea8dc467ede565dda9312610cc8b42b7/test/ArtemisNetClient.IntegrationTests/TopologyManagement/DeleteQueueSpec.cs#L53-L79
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 3:29 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I meant the Boolean property saying auto remove address. I didn’t
> > realize
> > > > that was the issue.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 9:27 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I did not realize there was a management operation in the mix. I
> > agree
> > > > > with Robbie
> > > > >
> > > > > @Havret let me know if that’s the issue please ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 6:05 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> If the management API has a queue deletion operation that takes an
> > > > >> 'auto delete address' boolean then I would consider it a bug if it
> > > > >> doesnt actually [eventually] delete a previously
> > > > >> auto-created-by-management address when that boolean is true,
> > > > >> regardless of the broker config.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If it doesnt delete the address then it seems effectively useless;
> > if
> > > > >> it only does anything if auto-delete-address was set true in the
> > > > >> broker config then why does the management boolean even exist at
> > all?
> > > > >> It then seems to do nearly or absolutely nothing (unless setting
> the
> > > > >> management boolean false will somehow prevent the address being
> > > > >> auto-deleted by the broker even if its auto-delete config is set
> > > > >> true...seems unlikely)?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Personally I think this is a bug and the explicit management
> boolean
> > > > >> should be respected, it and the broker auto deletion are not even
> > > > >> really the same form of auto-deletion. The general auto-deletion
> > > > >> mechanism is a sweep recognising unused auto-created things. The
> > > > >> management operation is an explicit command that 'im deleting the
> > > > >> queue, also auto delete its address now, the one that you
> > auto-created
> > > > >> earlier, so that I dont have to go do that separately'. It is
> > > > >> essentially a shortcut to avoid needing to perform another
> > management
> > > > >> operation.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> At the very least if it is to be considered not-a-bug it should
> > throw
> > > > >> an exception when the value is true if it isnt actually going to
> > work,
> > > > >> e.g an IllegalStateException, alerting the user to their folly of
> > > > >> expecting it to work in the obvious way it previously seems to
> have.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In reverse, I would also expect/assume an 'auto create address'
> > > > >> management boolean on queue creation to work, even when the 'auto
> > > > >> create addresses' broker config is set false. If not, again it
> > should
> > > > >> throw.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 06:39, Havret <h4v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It seems I was assuming that calling destroy queue via
> management
> > > API
> > > > >> has
> > > > >> > greater precedence than configuration setting. With that being
> > said
> > > I
> > > > >> will
> > > > >> > just update the client docs, so the API doesn't confuse users
> > > anymore.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > To summarize:
> > > > >> > If you create a queue with *auto-create-address *flag set to
> true,
> > > and
> > > > >> then
> > > > >> > try to destroy it, the flag *autoDeleteAddress *will work only,
> > and
> > > > >> only if
> > > > >> > the broker configuration has *auto-delete-addresses* flag set to
> > > true.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:31 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > >> clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > If auto-delete is disabled, the address should not be removed.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > If you had a case where it was removed, it was a bug.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The flag was respected before.. but perhaps there was a
> > situation
> > > it
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> > > not.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > You telling me to disrespect the flag and always remove it..
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > >> > > an oxymoron.. I would just pretty much ignore the setting.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 4:56 PM Havret <h4v...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > This particular queue is not defined in broker.xml. I'm not
> > sure
> > > > if
> > > > >> 2.19
> > > > >> > > is
> > > > >> > > > semantically correct, as having the same configuration I'm
> > > getting
> > > > >> > > > different results than with 2.18 and previous versions. I
> > > > >> understand that
> > > > >> > > > removing the address was decoupled from removing the queue,
> > but
> > > in
> > > > >> this
> > > > >> > > > particular case the address is never deleted.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I'm gessing that changes related to
> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-3502,
> > > > >> > > auto-delete-addresses
> > > > >> > > > flag, and management API delete queue (with
> autoDeleteAddress
> > > set
> > > > to
> > > > >> > > true)
> > > > >> > > > don't play nice together.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > My expectation would be that the address will be eventually
> > > > deleted
> > > > >> even
> > > > >> > > > though the auto-delete-addresses flag is disabled in broker
> > > > >> > > configuration.
> > > > >> > > > This is an imperative API call, at least from the client
> > > > >> perspective.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 5:46 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > >> > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I believe 2.19 is semantically correct to the
> configuration
> > > you
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> > > > > showing.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > We also had another change related to not delete queues
> > > defined
> > > > on
> > > > >> > > > > broker.xml.  Perhaps that’s the problem ?
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 9:38 AM Havret <h4v...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > I had the same broker configuration for 2.18.0 and the
> > test
> > > > >> passed
> > > > >> > > just
> > > > >> > > > > > fine, so I don't think that the matter of new defaults.
> > The
> > > > >> queue is
> > > > >> > > > > > removed just fine (
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/6cee91547c18194330062a48c3b02c7c385457ff/test/ArtemisNetClient.IntegrationTests/TopologyManagement/DeleteQueueSpec.cs#L68
> > > > >> > > > > > ),
> > > > >> > > > > > the problem is that the management api seems to ignore
> > > > >> > > autoDeleteAddress
> > > > >> > > > > > parameter and the second assertion fails (
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/6cee91547c18194330062a48c3b02c7c385457ff/test/ArtemisNetClient.IntegrationTests/TopologyManagement/DeleteQueueSpec.cs#L70
> > > > >> > > > > > )
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >> > > > > > Havret
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:54 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > >> > > > > clebert.suco...@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > The answer for that is in your configuration:
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > <auto-delete-queues>false</auto-delete-queues>
> > > > >> > > > > > > <auto-delete-addresses>false</auto-delete-addresses>
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > <auto-delete-created-queues>false</auto-delete-created-queues>
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > if you create a new broker configuration now, these
> > > > >> auto-deletes
> > > > >> > > are
> > > > >> > > > > > > turned off.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > I did that because I have been recommending people in
> > > > >> production to
> > > > >> > > > > > > turn them off.. so I thought I should just turn'em off
> > by
> > > > >> > > default...
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > I couldn't change the default default, but I added
> these
> > > to
> > > > >> new
> > > > >> > > > > > > configurations...
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > if you need to test auto-delete, you need to set them
> > > true.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > Notice that since 2.19 now these will perform a scan
> > > before
> > > > an
> > > > >> > > actual
> > > > >> > > > > > > delete would happen.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > This is because I had seen a production issue where a
> > > > >> consumer that
> > > > >> > > > > > > was up to date, disconnected (connection failure), the
> > > close
> > > > >> > > deleted
> > > > >> > > > > > > the queue immediately, while immediately it caused to
> > > > another
> > > > >> > > queue to
> > > > >> > > > > > > be created... in one cirtcunstance the queue was
> created
> > > but
> > > > >> not
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > > > > > address, creating a mess..
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > I tried to fixing it properly without adding the
> delays,
> > > > but I
> > > > >> > > could
> > > > >> > > > > > > not come up with a scenario that would always work
> > > > perfectly..
> > > > >> > > because
> > > > >> > > > > > > the client will query for the queue, and then issue a
> > > create
> > > > >> > > > > > > separately.. there's always an issue between the queue
> > and
> > > > >> > > create...
> > > > >> > > > > > > so... the best is to not remove the queue immediately
> > any
> > > > >> more...
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 4:33 PM Havret <
> > hav...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm trying to update the test suite of
> > ArtemisNetClient
> > > to
> > > > >> use
> > > > >> > > > > ActiveMQ
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Artemis 2.19.0, but one of the tests starts failing
> on
> > > > >> 2.19.0:
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > Should_delete_queue_alongside_with_auto_created_address
> > > > -->
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/pull/300/checks?check_run_id=3943848841
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > The test creates a queue using the management api
> and
> > > then
> > > > >> > > removes it
> > > > >> > > > > > > with
> > > > >> > > > > > > > flag autoDeleteAddress set to true. The queue is
> > removed
> > > > >> but the
> > > > >> > > > > > address
> > > > >> > > > > > > > isn't. I've looked over the release notes, but I
> > didn't
> > > > spot
> > > > >> > > anything
> > > > >> > > > > > > that
> > > > >> > > > > > > > could indicate this change of behavior. Is this a
> > > > >> regression, or
> > > > >> > > was
> > > > >> > > > > > it a
> > > > >> > > > > > > > deliberate change?
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Robbie suggested that it might be related to
> > > > >> > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-3502
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > I tried to adjust the test:
> > > > >> > > > > > > > - I set *address-queue-scan-period* to 100
> > > > >> > > > > > > > - I wait up to 5 seconds until the address is
> removed
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > But the test still is failing. My broker
> configuration
> > > is
> > > > as
> > > > >> > > follows:
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/Havret/dotnet-activemq-artemis-client/blob/fc256b2a3784447fa4feadea58b62f58d1fcabfd/test/artemis/broker.xml
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Is it possible that this new setting interferes with
> > > > >> > > > > > > > *auto-delete-addresses *set to *false*?
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Havret
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > --
> > > > >> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > --
> > > > >> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic
> >
>
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Clebert Suconic

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