I would be fine with a wipe clean and restart. Just for the record. On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 11:24 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Essentially just that there isnt disagreement about wiping it all > (since it means some ancient stuff will go, and current stuff will be > 'missing' for a small time until created again). > > Not unreasonable...besides, it's been a mess for several years, a > couple days for gauging consensus doesn't really hurt hehe. > > It seems perhaps someone has been cleaning a little already though, > perhaps tweaking the version-was-released cleanup, as some of the > effectively-nothing-there junk within the wider clutter actually seems > to have disappeared already. > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 15:48, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I’m just saying it should be a no brainer. Old stuff on snapshot can > go. > > > > I’m not sure what consensus infra is asking on the JIRA. > > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 10:12 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > Yep, committers can also manually do a deploy. > > > > > > Old snapshots are removed when the 'matching non-snapshot version' is > > > released. Though it does still leave behind some metadata, so the > > > related folders typically still all remain, making it a little harder > > > to see what really is there. There are lots of these in the tree. > > > > > > Things that never actually get released for a variety of reasons > > > currently stick around forever (e.g as the component was never > > > actually released again, or a specific module went away before > > > release, or the version number was changed between initial development > > > and the eventual release, etc etc). There are also a variety of these > > > in the tree as well. > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 14:40, Clebert Suconic < > clebert.suco...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1000 > > > > > > > > the snapshot can also be deployed by anyone's laptop from a PMC > member. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought there was an automatic rule to remove snapshots from ages > > > > ago already. IMO This should be a no brainer on removing anything > that > > > > was deployed more than 3 months ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > if we need to wipe it clean and redeploy all current snapshots that > > > > may be a good way to clean it up... > > > > > > > > the best way would be to have a rule removing any component (or > > > > version) that didn't have an upload in more than 3 months. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 1:41 PM Robbie Gemmell < > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The jobs set up on Jenkins do it, either as part of an overall > build > > > > > job or specifically just for snapshots. > > > > > > > > > > The various branch specific 5.x jobs do it as part of their overall > > > > > process, they are under: > > > > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/ActiveMQ/job/ActiveMQ/ > > > > > > > > > > For Artemis there is just a specific snapshot deploy job for main > at: > > > > > > > > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/ActiveMQ/job/ActiveMQ-Artemis-SNAPSHOT-Deploy/ > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 18:07, Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no objections, but I do have a question. What is pushing > those > > > > > > snapshots? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:02 PM Robbie Gemmell < > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infra have said they would be happier with PMC consensus first > for > > > a > > > > > > > bulk clear (which I suggested as picking out individual stuff > to > > > clear > > > > > > > or keep would be a nightmare), so lets go with a lazy consensus > > > poll: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone object to bulk-clearing of the stale contents of > the > > > > > > > snapshot repo, and having the CI jobs repopulating only fresh > > > stuff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets say lazy consensus will be assumed on Friday failing > > > discussion > > > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robbie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 12:05, Robbie Gemmell < > > > robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, just a note that I have raised a JIRA to ask Infra > to > > > clear > > > > > > > > out the snapshots repo, as I came to realise it is full of a > > > > > > > > considerable amount of stale junk, including things that > either > > > add > > > > > > > > clutter or just actively mislead people. Once cleared the > > > nightly jobs > > > > > > > > can then deploy just the stuff currently being worked on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24848 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Clebert Suconic > > > > > -- > > Clebert Suconic > -- Clebert Suconic