As we didn’t have consensus I paused on this one. But happy to prepare a
formal website PR with dedicated area etc.

Regards
JB

Le mar. 12 sept. 2023 à 10:54, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Have you got any work towards the linked proposals idea of refreshing
> the old 5.x docs etc on the website under its component area?
>
> On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 05:23, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I agree and it's actually something we likely discussed while ago
> > related to renaming as for me we have two really different subprojects
> > (https://lists.apache.org/thread/f0rqkq01xgyogqownx38k1mdsy69lzvm).
> >
> > IMHO, ActiveMQ should use 6.x, 7.x, 8.x; ... versioning (and so jump
> > to 6.x now with Spring 6, Jakarta, and other breaking changes) and
> > Artemis uses his versioning (2.x; ...).
> > That's exactly why I proposed to use clear different naming for the
> community.
> >
> > So big +1 (as happy to see this discussion again as I started similar
> > while ago without success, timing is probably better now).
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 11:14 PM Christopher Shannon
> > <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > First, I realize that this thread is likely to cause a fight based on
> past
> > > history and probably not go anywhere, but with the work being done
> > > with Jakarta for AMQ 5.x I think it's time to at least bring up the
> > > ActiveMQ 6.0 discussion.
> > >
> > > With all the breaking changes currently targeted for version 5.19.x,
> such
> > > as the Jakarta switch from javax, requiring JDK 17, major Spring and
> Jetty
> > > upgrades and now potentially major OSGi changes, it makes zero sense
> to me
> > > to have this next AMQ version as version 5.19.0 as it's completely
> > > incompatible with the previous version 5.18.x. Users are likely going
> to be
> > > in for a rude awakening when trying to upgrade and will be quite
> confused
> > > as to why so much is different.
> > >
> > > The Jakarta changes should really be a major version upgrade so that
> it's
> > > much more clear to users that it's very different from the previous
> > > version. Another major benefit of going with version 6.0 is that it
> frees
> > > up the previous javax releases to continue on with 5.19 or 5.20
> because we
> > > will likely need to support the older javax releases for quite a while.
> > >
> > > Also, from my point of view it seems pretty clear that the original
> goal
> > > for Artemis to become AMQ 6.0.0 is never going to happen.  Artemis has
> had
> > > its own branding and versioning for several years now and will likely
> > > continue that way and not change so I don't really see that as a
> reason to
> > > not bump AMQ 5.x to 6.x with all the major breaking changes.
> > >
> > > Anyways, I figure there won't be much agreement here but thought I
> should
> > > at least throw it out there before we go and release 5.19.x with such
> major
> > > breaking changes.
>

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