Huge +1 

Have just worked through a few Jakarta changes and it is a lot of things you 
need to change. 

Sent from my pressure cooker.

> On Sep 11, 2023, at 22:23, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree and it's actually something we likely discussed while ago
> related to renaming as for me we have two really different subprojects
> (https://lists.apache.org/thread/f0rqkq01xgyogqownx38k1mdsy69lzvm).
> 
> IMHO, ActiveMQ should use 6.x, 7.x, 8.x; ... versioning (and so jump
> to 6.x now with Spring 6, Jakarta, and other breaking changes) and
> Artemis uses his versioning (2.x; ...).
> That's exactly why I proposed to use clear different naming for the community.
> 
> So big +1 (as happy to see this discussion again as I started similar
> while ago without success, timing is probably better now).
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 11:14 PM Christopher Shannon
>> <christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> First, I realize that this thread is likely to cause a fight based on past
>> history and probably not go anywhere, but with the work being done
>> with Jakarta for AMQ 5.x I think it's time to at least bring up the
>> ActiveMQ 6.0 discussion.
>> 
>> With all the breaking changes currently targeted for version 5.19.x, such
>> as the Jakarta switch from javax, requiring JDK 17, major Spring and Jetty
>> upgrades and now potentially major OSGi changes, it makes zero sense to me
>> to have this next AMQ version as version 5.19.0 as it's completely
>> incompatible with the previous version 5.18.x. Users are likely going to be
>> in for a rude awakening when trying to upgrade and will be quite confused
>> as to why so much is different.
>> 
>> The Jakarta changes should really be a major version upgrade so that it's
>> much more clear to users that it's very different from the previous
>> version. Another major benefit of going with version 6.0 is that it frees
>> up the previous javax releases to continue on with 5.19 or 5.20 because we
>> will likely need to support the older javax releases for quite a while.
>> 
>> Also, from my point of view it seems pretty clear that the original goal
>> for Artemis to become AMQ 6.0.0 is never going to happen.  Artemis has had
>> its own branding and versioning for several years now and will likely
>> continue that way and not change so I don't really see that as a reason to
>> not bump AMQ 5.x to 6.x with all the major breaking changes.
>> 
>> Anyways, I figure there won't be much agreement here but thought I should
>> at least throw it out there before we go and release 5.19.x with such major
>> breaking changes.

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