The docker-based integration tests could be added using a different maven 
profile (ie -Pintegration-tests) and we can configure CI to only run that 
profile weekly to keep the unit test execution time manageable.

-Matt

> On Sep 25, 2025, at 1:28 AM, Francois Papon <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For using both testcontainer and H2 I would prefer to use H2 if possible 
> because testcontainer can slow down the build/test and it's not always 
> available on CI runners because as runners can be a docker, running a docker 
> in a docker can be blocked for security reason.
> 
> regards,
> 
> François
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> 
> Le 25/09/2025 à 06:54, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
>> Hi
>> 
>> Thanks for your message Clebert.
>> 
>> We are not in the rush but worth to explore the alternatives.
>> 
>> I think we have two options (for both Artemis and Classic):
>> 1. Find another file db like h2
>> 2. Use test containers
>> 
>> My preference is for 2 as the tests should be more accurate using a “real”
>> database.
>> 
>> But again, we have time to prepare this change: even if the project is
>> retired, the artifacts are still there (it means that we won’t have new
>> versions and maintenance but it gives us time).
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
>> 
>> Le mer. 24 sept. 2025 à 21:03, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
>> a écrit :
>> 
>>> I saw a discussion today about Derby retiring...
>>> 
>>> We still use it as part of our testsuites, both on ActiveMQ "Classic"
>>> and "Artemis"...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder what should we do about this? Should we let it retire, should
>>> we still use it as read-only (as its a good tool for testing), or
>>> should we ask them to keep it alive?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If we let it retire, what would we replace it with?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Clebert Suconic
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