Yep, I would say much the same. I'd avoid testcontainers for the
initial/default testing for similar reasons whenever there are clear
reasonable and faster alternatives, and in this case there seems
likely to be multiple. I'd use it (/docker/podman) for more secondary
checking interaction with e.g specific DB impls that dont otherwise
fit that core model.

On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 07:29, Francois Papon
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For using both testcontainer and H2 I would prefer to use H2 if possible
> because testcontainer can slow down the build/test and it's not always
> available on CI runners because as runners can be a docker, running a
> docker in a docker can be blocked for security reason.
>
> regards,
>
> François
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
> Le 25/09/2025 à 06:54, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
> > Hi
> >
> > Thanks for your message Clebert.
> >
> > We are not in the rush but worth to explore the alternatives.
> >
> > I think we have two options (for both Artemis and Classic):
> > 1. Find another file db like h2
> > 2. Use test containers
> >
> > My preference is for 2 as the tests should be more accurate using a “real”
> > database.
> >
> > But again, we have time to prepare this change: even if the project is
> > retired, the artifacts are still there (it means that we won’t have new
> > versions and maintenance but it gives us time).
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > Le mer. 24 sept. 2025 à 21:03, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
> > a écrit :
> >
> >> I saw a discussion today about Derby retiring...
> >>
> >> We still use it as part of our testsuites, both on ActiveMQ "Classic"
> >> and "Artemis"...
> >>
> >>
> >> I wonder what should we do about this? Should we let it retire, should
> >> we still use it as read-only (as its a good tool for testing), or
> >> should we ask them to keep it alive?
> >>
> >>
> >> If we let it retire, what would we replace it with?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Clebert Suconic
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