I quite like the PIPE option. For me I feel that is more readable and easy
to understand similar to how we currently set task dependencies.

Wrapper Function is also fine as long as a User doesn't have to change the
way they define task i.e. they can still use their old DAGs.

The main reason I like the PIPE approach compared to setting args / kwargs
is I like the current approach where we can define task in isolation
(without knowledge of other task, there are exceptions to that too but low
in number, like using xcom_pull in a templated_field) and then set
dependencies separately. So to be able to optionally set lineage info would
be ideal.

Regarding usecases: Two main use-cases I encounter most often is (1) to
traceback an error in Data from the Data Provider, and (2) In case of
Audits (to check GDPR compliance or a user-request) I can easily provide
how we got the data and how was it modified.

Regards,
Kaxil



On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 21:11 Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:

> >
> > File(url=“http://www.google.com”) | task1 | task2 > File(url=“
> > file:///tmp/out”)
> >
>
> I love the UNIXY pipeline approach - a lot more than my operator
> overloading proposal :).
> And I think combining it with the builder pattern for more complex
> cases works
> very nicely (those complex cases will be rare I think). The | pattern will
> only really
> work "after" the tasks are defined though, not "when" they are defined so
> they are
> closer to dependencies rather than builder but I think it's good to have
> it.
>
> At the end I think my proposal with "set_inlet" rather than "inlet()" is
> really a question of an emphasis - do we see it as something as we "build"
> operator
> with (hence builder pattern) or something that we "set" afterwards.
> Implementation -
> wise I think they are pretty much the same :). And I am fine to put the
> emphasis on
> "building"/"builderPattern" and name the methods "inlet()" "outlet()". It's
> at the end
> the matter of how users will use it - and what will be the most popular way
> of defining
> inlets/outlets. I think we agree in this case that "builder" + unixy
> pipeline is something
> we both can agree with :).
>
> really do not want to have the mapping needed to be kept in sync by the DAG
> > developer. It is okay for non lineage aware operators, but for lineage
> > aware operators this shouldn’t be there - it should be inside the
> operator.
> >
>
> Agree. If we have lineage-aware operators we can add lineage as first-class
> init option.
> I do not think it should be a default approach (like "always add lineage to
> all operators
> when you update it") but it should be an option to build your own custom
> lineage-aware
> operator if you do not want to use builder pattern. Some "standard"
> operators might
> come with lineage built-in when they are pretty much "requiring" or
> "strongly encouraging"
> having lineage - for example where you have services that deal with
> privacy.
>
> I am still however not 100% convinced about the implicit kwargs passing
> from Inlet/Outlet classes.
> It sounds too implicit and too hacky for me - I have a gut feeling that
> there will be cases where
> it will break initialisation code in some cases (and for sure it breaks IDE
> autocompletion "cleannes").
> On the positive side I see how it saves on not having to define your own
> custom lineage-aware
> variants of the operators when they are not lineage-aware. This is quite a
> value on its own - I fully agree.
>
> But on the other hand, it feels like a bit of duct-tape solution :). Not
> that I am all against duct-tape and
> zip-ties - sometimes they are the best engineering solution you can come up
> with and that's OK.
>
> This opinion is not super-strong, I'd love to know  what others think about
> it. If it's ok for others
> and it's only me who has this concern, I am quite OK with having all three
> options available:
>
>    - custom Inlet/Outlet args with kwargs passing
>    - inlet()/outlet() builder pattern
>    - UNIXY | operator.
>
> J.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 24 January 2020 at 14:35:00, Jarek Potiuk ([email protected])
> > wrote:
> >
> > After discussing with Bolke (we had indeed very good and constructive
> > discussion at Polidea office this week), I am a great supporter of adding
> > more lineage support to Airflow and I think we should all as community
> > think about how to make it as easy as possible to use and maintain. If it
> > is not yet, it will soon become a requirement for many businesses to
> record
> > the lineage data for many reasons (GDPR/ the California Consumer Privacy
> > are the first ones that come to mind but there are many
> enterprise-internal
> > cases that are also super-important. And adding lineage data might
> open-up
> > Airflow deployments to a lot of new usages. So I am all for it and happy
> to
> > support / take part in the effort to implement it.
> >
> >
> > *Some context/thoughts:*
> >
> > I thought a bit about it after our discussions with Bolke, and from the
> > implementation point of view I think of lineage mainly as "additional
> > meta-data" - IMHO it should not interfere too much with the ways current
> > DAGs are implemented. Lineage should be easy to use but it also should be
> > optional, and I think it's a bad idea to make the users choose the way
> they
> > are going to write the Dags depending whether they want to add lineage or
> > not. I think it should be super easy to add lineage information to
> existing
> > Dags without heavily impacting the way how the DAGs are implemented in
> the
> > code. This should be an "extra" information added to existing dags.
> > Otherwise we try to mix two different things - task dependency and data
> > dependency. Putting them together is I think very difficult, but putting
> > them as "separate layers" is quite doable. Also I think we already have
> in
> > total many millions of DAGs written by different companies and the easier
> > we make it to add Lineage information to those DAGs - the better IMHO.
> Also
> > I think changing totally concept of writing DAGs and dependencies is a
> > difficult one to pull-off - especially if we would like people to
> maintain
> > DAGs written before/after lineage in the same place. I think transition
> > should be simple and incremental rather than revolutionary
> >
> > I think most of the options we have differ by "syntactic-sugar" - under
> the
> > hood they are all trying to achieve the same. And the syntactic-sugar is
> > really what is most important for DAG developers, and Operator
> developers.
> > So I don't even discuss the need and scope of API/etc - this is secondary
> > and I think we can agree that after we all agree what syntax we use to
> add
> > lineage information.
> >
> > *Comments on proposals:*
> >
> > Let me comment on those proposals (in this context above):
> >
> > 1) Bolke's Wrappers - point 1
> >
> > It does not impact the way how operators are written (and does not
> require
> > to rewrite hundreds of operators). That's good. And it allows to
> > incrementally change existing DAGs by replacing parameters of some
> > operators to use Inlet/Outlet - it's good as well. It does not differ
> that
> > much from existing dags - that's great. One thing that worries me in this
> > case that in case you write Dags with/without lineage or have some
> > operators with/without lineage in the same DAG, you get a different
> syntax
> > (potentially for the same operator classes). I am not 100% sure if this
> is
> > a realistic case to mix lineage/non-lineage tasks in the same DAG (I
> think
> > it might happen) but there is a bit of "syntactic smell" (similar to
> > code-smell) where we seem to have some inconsistent approach on how to
> > define DAGs. It's not a deal-breaker, just a smell. It will be quite a
> work
> > to convert between one and the other and when you want to copy&paste
> > portions of DAGs with/without lineage it will not work.
> >
> > 2) Builder pattern: It has similar characteristics as 1) but it IMHO it
> is
> > much nicer for the difference between lineage/non-lineage case. Main
> > parameters remain the same, autocompletion when writing the dags will
> > continue to work here (for operators) for example. and You can
> > copy&paste easily between dags with/without lineage with just
> > deleting/adding the builder methods. Indeed the parameter name have to be
> > mapped, but as Bolke mentioned, they are slowly changing (if at all) and
> I
> > think it's not a big problem overall - especially that we can very easily
> > verify that at setting inlet/outlet - if parameter name is wrong, the
> whole
> > DAG would fail so we have a safety net. I like it much better than 2).
> >
> > 3) I also see how we can extend 2. by utilising the pattern that we
> already
> > use in Airflow - similar to what we do with dependencies. Currently task
> > dependencies are independent from the definition of the operators and
> they
> > are never defined at the place where operators are defined. And I think
> > inlets/outlets should be similar. Similarly as in DAG dependencies, you
> > could add the "lineage dependencies" right after where the operator is
> > defined or "all dependencies in bulk". Depending on your dag style of
> > currently defined dependencies - different people have different styles.
> I
> > think we could add lineage information very similarly. It would be
> similar
> > to the builder pattern but decoupled from task definition. And it would
> be
> > closer to dependency definition rather than to task definition. It could
> > also be supported by 'python operator overloading' - similarly as we do
> > with << >> for set_downstream/set_upstream. Example:
> >
> > task1 = BashOperator() # For example
> > task2 = MysqlToHiveTransfer(mysql_conn_id=‘conn_id’, sql=’select * from
> > table’, hive_cli_conn_id=‘hive_conn’, hive_table=‘hive_table’)
> >
> > task1 >> task2
> >
> >
> task2.set_inlet(‘mysql_conn_id’,{’sql’:‘mysql’}).set_outlet(‘hive_cli_conn_id’,
> >
> > ‘hive_table’)
> > or
> > task2 <= (‘mysql_conn_id’,{’sql’:‘mysql’}) >= (‘hive_cli_conn_id’,
> > ‘hive_table’)
> >
> > I think this is basically the same as builder pattern, but naming it
> > builder pattern implies that it is done at "creation time". With this
> > proposal (set_ method naming and operator overloading and separating it
> > from task definition) it is more afterthought to task creation time -
> > similarly as dependencies are. It has one advantage over the builder
> > pattern - DAG definition with Lineage and without it look exactly the
> same
> > and you can copy&paste them as they are. Lineage information is added
> extra
> > and you can easily add more of the lineage
> > information without touching the original DAG definition. You cam also
> > choose your lineage definition style - either you couple it closer with
> > task definition (if you add it right after the task) or you have separate
> > "lineage" section where you have all the lineage dependencies for all the
> > tasks in your DAG in the same place. I like this approach most, I think
> it
> > serves the same purpose as 2) and 1) but is more flexible and more
> > "incremental" in its nature.
> >
> > 4) Gerard's functional pattern - I think it's an interesting approach.
> But
> > I think it's much deeper change in the approach on how we think about
> > Airflow. I believe we should not mix it with lineage discussion. They
> might
> > converge at some point, but @Gerard - I have a kind proposal / request -
> > maybe you can open a separate thread with that at the devlist? It changes
> > the whole approach for Dag writing to be more functional. With the
> lineage
> > discussion, I think we talk about what can be implemented in 2.0
> timeframe,
> > where your change is much more futuristic and requires to change the
> > paradigm shift for Airflow. I think the basic assumption for lineage is
> > that we should be able to tap into both - existing operators and existing
> > DAGs rather than rewrite them all.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:10 AM Gerard Casas Saez
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > I think the whole data lineage proposal is great and I would like to
> > > contribute a bit with my own thoughts on how to extend the Operators
> API
> > > for better lineage support.
> > >
> > > Lately, I’ve been experimenting a bit on extending the Operator API to
> > > make it more `functional` to specify Data dependencies and pipeline
> data
> > > across the DAG. My approach is backwards compatible and it separates
> the
> > > way you specify operator arguments with Inlets/Outlets dynamically
> > > generated. I used XCom as a simplification to pass around dynamic
> values.
> > >
> > > My proposal is to include a __call__ function that would dynamically
> > > replace class attributes before executing the `pre_execute` and
> `execute`
> > > function. This tied with a XComArg, a class that points to a previous
> > task
> > > XCom pushed value, allowed me to define DAGs in a more functional
> > > approach. Basically my proposal is:
> > >
> > >
> > > • Add a __call__ function in BaseOperator that accepts Inlets (in my
> case
> > > its XComArgs)
> > > • Log their values on execution time (which would allow to expose a
> REST
> > > API like proposed before)
> > > • Resolves them before executing the main `execute` function
> > > • Set attribute in the operator class
> > > • Executes the operator and returns an XComArgs that can later be tied
> in
> > > a new operator as an Inlet…
> > >
> > >
> > > Here’s what it would look like (ML example, sorry):
> > >
> > > with DAG(...) as dag:
> > > load = LoadDatasetOperator(task_id='load_dataset', )
> > > split = SplitTrainTestOperator(task_id='split', test_perc=0.3)
> > > train = TrainTensorflowModelOperator(task_id='train')
> > > validate = PrecisionRecallOperator(task_id='pr')
> > > report = EmailOperator(task_id='send_pr_report', subject='New model
> > > trained results', email='[email protected]’)
> > >
> > > dataset = load(path='hdfs://some/dataset')
> > > splitted_ds = split(dataset=dataset)
> > > model = train(dataset=splitted_ds['train'],
> > > model_specification='hdfs://some/dataset')
> > > metrics = validate(model=model, dataset=splitted_ds['test'])
> > > report(html_content=metrics)
> > >
> > > As someone wise sometime said, code is better than words, so here’s my
> > > experimental code: https://github.com/casassg/corrent (ignore the
> awful
> > > name and the injection part).
> > >
> > > Gerard Casas Saez
> > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez
> > > On Jan 22, 2020, 8:40 PM -0700, Tao Feng , wrote:
> > > > Thanks Bolke. For those that are not aware, my team is working with
> > > Bolke's
> > > > team on Amundsen which is a data discovery and metadata project(
> > > > https://github.com/lyft/amundsen) . I think although it ships with
> > Atlas
> > > > client(or it used to be), the new API per my understanding is generic
> > > > enough that doesn't tight with atlas. E.g we(Lyft) could build a
> neo4j
> > /
> > > > Amundsen client in our Airflow fork to ingest the lineage info in a
> > push
> > > > fashion to build the lineage.
> > > >
> > > > Amundsen itself has put up the effort to integrate Airflow with the
> > > > tool(connect which DAG/task produces the data set etc). With this
> > > change, I
> > > > foresee it will help to provide more enriched metadata.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Tao
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:46 AM Dan Davydov
> > <[email protected]
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just want to preface my reply with the fact that I haven't thought
> > > about
> > > > > data lineage very much.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an awesome idea :)! I like something like 1) personally,
> e.g.
> > > > > operators could optionally define a .outlet() and .inlet()
> interface
> > > which
> > > > > would return the inlets and outlets of a given task, and then it's
> up
> > > to
> > > > > the operator how it wants to set these inlets/outlets like the
> > > Papermill
> > > > > operator currently does. This also keeps allows inlets/outlets more
> > > dynamic
> > > > > (e.g. in the case of an operator that might generate inlets/outlets
> > > > > dynamically at execution time). Seems the most extensible/least
> > > coupling.
> > > > > IMO we should strive to make DAGs easy to create with little
> > > boilerplate,
> > > > > but this is a lot less important for operators since they are a lot
> > > more
> > > > > stable and change less frequently, so it's fine to require
> operators
> > to
> > > > > implement some interface manually.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:33 AM Bolke de Bruin <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Over last few weeks I made serious improvements to the lineage
> > > support
> > > > > that
> > > > > > Airflow has. Whilst not complete it’s starting to shape up and I
> > > think it
> > > > > > is good to share some thoughts and directions. Much has been
> > > discussed
> > > > > with
> > > > > > several organisations like Polidea, Daily Motion and Lyft. Some
> > have
> > > > > > already implemented some support for lineage themselves (Daily
> > > Motion)
> > > > > and
> > > > > > some have a need for it (Lyft with Amundsen).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First a bit of a recap. What is lineage of why is it important?
> > > Lineage
> > > > > > allows you to track the origins of data what happens to it and
> > where
> > > it
> > > > > > moves over time. Lineage is often associated with audibility of
> > data
> > > > > > pipelines which is not a very sexy subject ;-). However, there
> are
> > > much
> > > > > > more prominent and user facing improvements possible if you have
> > > lineage
> > > > > > data available. Lineage greatly simplifies the ability to trace
> > back
> > > > > errors
> > > > > > to the root cause in analytics. So, instead of the user calling
> up
> > > the
> > > > > > engineering team in case of a data error, it could traceback to
> the
> > > > > origin
> > > > > > of the data and call the one that has created the original data
> > set.
> > > > > > Lineage also greatly improves discoverability of data. Lineage
> > > > > information
> > > > > > gives insights into the importance of data sets. So if a new
> > employee
> > > > > joins
> > > > > > a team he would normally go to the most senior person in that
> team
> > > to ask
> > > > > > him what data sources he is using and what their meaning is. If
> > > lineage
> > > > > > information is exposed through a tool like Amundsen this is not
> > > required
> > > > > > because that person can just look it up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To summarise their are 3 use cases driving the need for lineage:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Discoverability of data
> > > > > > 2. Improved data operations
> > > > > > 3. Audibility of data pipelines
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So that’s all great I hear you thinking, but why don’t we have it
> > in
> > > > > > Airflow already if it is so important? The answer to that is two
> > > fold.
> > > > > > Firstly, adding lineage information is often associated with a
> lot
> > of
> > > > > > metadata and meta programming. Typically if lineage is being
> > > ’slapped on’
> > > > > > one needs to add a lot of metadata which then need to be kept in
> > > sync. In
> > > > > > that way it does not solve a problem for the developer and rather
> > it
> > > > > > creates one. Secondly, Airflow is a task based system and by
> > > definition
> > > > > > does not have a very good infrastructure that deals with data. In
> > the
> > > > > past
> > > > > > we had some trials by Jeremiah to add Pipelines, but it never was
> > > > > > integrated and I think it actually sparked him to start Prefect
> ;-)
> > > > > > (correct me if I am wrong if you are reading this Jermiah).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where is lineage support now in Airflow? In the 1.10.X series
> there
> > > is
> > > > > some
> > > > > > support for lineage, but it is buggy and difficult to use as it
> is
> > > based
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the metadata model of Apache Atlas. In master the foundation has
> > much
> > > > > > improved (but fully done yet). You can now set inlets and outlets
> > > with
> > > > > > lightweight objects like File(url=“http://www.google.com”) and
> > > > > > Table(name=“my_table”) and the lineage system in Airflow will
> > figure
> > > out
> > > > > a
> > > > > > lot for you. You can also have inlets pick up outlets from
> previous
> > > > > > upstream tasks by passing a list of task_ids or even using “AUTO”
> > > which
> > > > > > picks up outlets from direct upstream tasks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The lightweight objects are automatically templated so you can do
> > > > > something
> > > > > > like File(url=“/tmp/my_data_{{ execution_date }}”) which does the
> > > right
> > > > > > thing for you. Templating inlets and outlets gives very powerful
> > > > > > capabilities by for example creating a Task, that, based on the
> > > inlets it
> > > > > > receives, can drop PII information from an arbitrary table and
> > output
> > > > > this
> > > > > > table somewhere else. This allows for creating Generic Tasks/Dags
> > > that
> > > > > can
> > > > > > be re-used without any domain knowledge. A small example (not
> PII)
> > is
> > > > > > available with the example_papermill_operator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lineage information is exposed through an API endpoint. You can
> > query
> > > > > > “/api/experimental/lineage/<dag_id>/<execution_date>” and you
> will
> > > get a
> > > > > > list of tasks with their inlets and outlets defined. The lineage
> > > > > > information shared through the API and the lightweight object
> model
> > > are
> > > > > > very close to the model used within Lyft’s Amundsen so when that
> > gets
> > > > > > proper visualisation support for lineage and pulls in the
> > information
> > > > > from
> > > > > > Airflow it’s presto! Other systems might require some translation
> > but
> > > > > that
> > > > > > shouldn’t be too hard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What doesn’t it do? Well, and here we get to the point of this
> > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > there is still meta programming involved to keep the normal
> > > parameters
> > > > > and
> > > > > > the inlets and outlets to an operator in sync. This is because
> it’s
> > > hard
> > > > > to
> > > > > > make operators lineage aware without changing them. So while you
> > set
> > > > > > “inlets” and “outlets” to an Operator the operator itself doesn’t
> > do
> > > > > > anything with them, making them a lot less powerful. Actually,
> > there
> > > is
> > > > > > only one operator that has out of the box support for lineage is
> > the
> > > > > > PapermillOperator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In discussions with the aforementioned organisations it became
> > clear
> > > > > that,
> > > > > > while we could change all operators that Airflow comes out of the
> > box
> > > > > with,
> > > > > > this will not help with the many custom operators that are
> around.
> > > They
> > > > > > will simply not get updated as part of this exercise, leaving
> them
> > as
> > > > > > technical debt. Thus we need an approach that works with the past
> > and
> > > > > > improves the future. The generic pattern for Airflow operators is
> > > pretty
> > > > > > simple: you can read many (yes we know there are exceptions!) as
> > > > > > SourceToTarget(src_conn_id, src_xxx, src_xx, target_conn_id,
> > > target_xxx,
> > > > > > some_other_kwarg). Hence, we came up with the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For existing non lineage aware operators:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Use wrapper objects to group parameters together as inlet or
> as
> > > > > outlet.
> > > > > > For example usage for the MysqlToHiveTransfer could look like
> > > > > > MysqlToHiveTransfer(Inlet(mysql_conn_id=‘mysql_conn’,
> sql=’select *
> > > from
> > > > > > table’), Outlet(hive_cli_conn_id=‘hive_conn’,
> > > > > hive_table=‘my_hive_table’)).
> > > > > > The wrapper objects would then set the right kwargs to the
> Operator
> > > and
> > > > > > create the lineage information. This resolves the issue of
> keeping
> > > > > > parameters in sync.
> > > > > > 2. Use the build pattern to tell the lineage system which
> arguments
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > operator are for the Inlet and for the Outlet. Maybe with a type
> > > hint if
> > > > > > required. E.g.
> > > > > > MysqlToHiveTransfer(mysql_conn_id=‘conn_id’, sql=’select * from
> > > table’,
> > > > > > hive_cli_conn_id=‘hive_conn’,
> > > > > > hive_table=‘hive_table’).inlet(‘mysql_conn_id’,{’sql’:
> > > > > > ‘mysql’}).outlet(‘hive_cli_conn_id’, ‘hive_table’)
> > > > > > This requires a bit more work from the developer as the parameter
> > > names
> > > > > > need to be kept in sync. However, they are slow moving.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Future lineage aware operators:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Update the Operator to set and support inlets and outlets
> > itself.
> > > E.g.
> > > > > > like the current PapermillOperator
> > > > > > 2. Have a dictionary inside the operator which tells the lineage
> > > system
> > > > > > what fields are used for inlet and outlet. This is the integrated
> > > pattern
> > > > > > of 2 for non lineage aware operators:
> > > > > > # dictionary of parameter name with type
> > > > > > inlet_fields = {‘mysql_conn_id’: ‘mysql_connection’, ’sql’:
> ’sql’}
> > > > > > outlet_fields = {‘hive_conn_id’: ‘hive_connection’,
> ’hive_table’’:
> > > > > > ’table’}
> > > > > > Updates to the operator need to be checked to ensure the fields
> > > names are
> > > > > > kept in sync.
> > > > > > 3. Enforce a naming pattern for Operators like
> > > > > > MysqlToHiveTransfer(…) becomes
> > > > > > MysqlToHive(mysql_conn_id, mysql_sql, hive_conn_id, hive_table)
> or
> > > > > > MysqlToHive(src_conn_id, src_sql, target_conn_id, target_table)
> > > > > > This would allow the lineage system to figure out what is inlet
> and
> > > what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > outlet based on the naming scheme. It would require pylint plugin
> > to
> > > make
> > > > > > sure Operators to behave correctly, but would also make operators
> > > much
> > > > > more
> > > > > > predictable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Option number 3 for the future has the most impact. Out of the
> box
> > > the
> > > > > > lineage system in Airflow can support (and its my intention to do
> > > so) all
> > > > > > the above patterns, but ideally we do improve the state so that
> we
> > > can
> > > > > > deprecate what we do for non lineage aware operators in the
> future:
> > > > > wrapper
> > > > > > objects and the build pattern wouldn’t be necessary anymore.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you think? What are your thoughts on lineage, what kind
> of
> > > usages
> > > > > > do you foresee? How would you like to be using it and have it
> > > supported
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Airflow? Would you be able to work with the above ways of doing
> it?
> > > Pros
> > > > > > and cons?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Bolke
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jarek Potiuk
> > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
> >
> > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Jarek Potiuk
> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer
>
> M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>

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