Thanks Gerardo!

I think now we need to discuss Github Actions vs. CWiki :). Happy to do
start it when I am back from vacation (next week).


J.
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 6:52 PM Gerard Casas Saez
<gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:

> As I mentioned in my previous email, I assume a lazy consensus for this.
> Merged the latest proposal in doc:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hJDodc1xl4ixswPzAV4IAQu74sLnOOKjqecPgthLta4/edit#
> to
> CWIKI page:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+Improvements+Proposals
>
> Formatting wise, it seems it got formatted nicely just copy pasting so I
> don't think I will modify this.
>
> Thanks everyone for your contributions!
>
> Best,
>
> Gerard Casas Saez
> Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez <http://twitter.com/casassaez>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 12:08 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes go for it
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 7:05 PM Gerard Casas Saez
> > <gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, then if noone objects before Monday 8AM MST, I'll assume lazy
> > > consensus and bring the document text into the main CWiki page for AIP.
> > >
> > > Gerard Casas Saez
> > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez <http://twitter.com/casassaez>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 2:21 AM Jarek Potiuk <jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > LGTM
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:09 AM Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > <gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Did a new pass to define what changes may be considered worth an
> AIP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding GitHub issues, after seeing SIP-0 I quite liked it. Seems
> > way
> > > > > more lightweight and reduces issue of having to ask for permissions
> > for
> > > > it
> > > > > to be accepted. I do think it may be out of scope for this
> > conversation
> > > > to
> > > > > migrate, but I would be a +1 on that vote.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez <http://twitter.com/casassaez>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:20 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I also prefer Github Issues than either CWiki or PR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think there is little contention and usually, one person at a
> > time
> > > > leads
> > > > > > AIP description and updates the doc but others can still edit it
> > > > directly
> > > > > > for minor changes. Github issues has a history of changes (the
> ...
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > top) and this is enough to make sure the history of changes is
> > > > trackable
> > > > > > IMHO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only thing that I like better about CWiki is draw.io
> > > > integration. I
> > > > > > agree with Max (the other thread) that pictures are often worth
> > 1000
> > > > words
> > > > > > and having them embedded is a big plus. But you can link to
> > draw.io
> > > > and
> > > > > > embed images - a little involved but workable for discussion. So
> I
> > > > could do
> > > > > > either CWilki or Github Issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 6:33 PM Kaxil Naik <kaxiln...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am actually against the idea of having to PRs for editing
> > AIPs. I
> > > > think
> > > > > > > the current separation works better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Confluence is fine for me as it is because of its integrations.
> > > Don't
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > anything against Github issue but definitely not worth having
> it
> > in
> > > > > > Airflow
> > > > > > > docs which needs to be PR'd
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:47 PM Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > > > > <gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In that direction, I would prefer having markdown docs and
> PRs
> > > > instead
> > > > > > > > actually, similarly to how github.com/tensorflow/community
> > does
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will do a second pass to the later today :D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > > > > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez <http://twitter.com/casassaez>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ry Walker <r...@rywalker.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah I’d like for AIPs to be GitHub issues, more likely to
> > get
> > > > better
> > > > > > > > > attention since we’re all in GitHub way more than cwiki.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:01 AM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Looks great Gerard! I think maybe one last pass with
> > > Superset's
> > > > > > docs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Side comment. I really like that SIP's of superset end up
> > as
> > > > Github
> > > > > > > > > Issues.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > They even have template for it. Maybe we should do the
> > same?
> > > > Seems
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > are gravitating towards "Github  heads-on" recently -
> > Github
> > > > > > Actions,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Github Registry, Github Issues, GitHub Discussions .... I
> > > also
> > > > > > > applied
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Github CodeSpaces access .
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:27 AM Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > <gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Max for sharing. I will take a look and check
> what
> > > we
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > reuse
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > from there as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I also took a pass to the comments and edited +
> accepted
> > > > > > > suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > Let
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > me know:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hJDodc1xl4ixswPzAV4IAQu74sLnOOKjqecPgthLta4/edit
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Will try to read the document sent by Max tomorrow and
> > add
> > > > > > details
> > > > > > > > > based
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > that as needed. If someone wants to do that before
> > tomorrow
> > > > > > > > afternoon,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > please let me know!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez <
> > > http://twitter.com/casassaez>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:53 PM Maxime Beauchemin <
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For reference, here's SIP-0 (Superset Improvement
> > > Proposal
> > > > 0)
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > defines
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > the SIP process for Apache Superset:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/5602
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We also have a GitHub issue template for it:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/blob/master/.github/ISSUE_TEMPLATE/sip.md
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > and this kanban project to track the status of each
> > SIP:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/projects/7
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Max
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 3:38 AM Tomasz Urbaszek <
> > > > > > > > > turbas...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Gerard for this proposal, it looks good! I
> > added
> > > > few
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bests,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomek
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:49 PM Kaxil Naik <
> > > > > > > kaxiln...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Gerard, added my suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:17 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > jarek.pot...@polidea.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's super cool indeed! I already made my
> > > > suggestions and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > comments. I
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no need to do vote - lazy consensus
> > should
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > applied
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > case
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think when you think is ready :).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 8:12 PM Gerard Casas
> Saez
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do have access, I will add it there once
> > > there's
> > > > > > > > consensus
> > > > > > > > > > (not
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we should submit this to vote).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerard Casas Saez
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter | Cortex | @casassaez <
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/casassaez>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:09 PM Ry Walker <
> > > > > > > > r...@rywalker.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Proposal looks good to me Gerard - thanks
> for
> > > > putting
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > together!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ry
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 1:41 PM Gerard
> Casas
> > > Saez
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gcasass...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I realized that the AIP process was not
> > super
> > > > clear
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > times. I
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lucky
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when I proposed AIP-31 that Dan and Tomek
> > > > guided me
> > > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process themselves, but I realize this
> may
> > be
> > > > > > > confusing
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the community. For that reason and after
> > > > discussing
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kamil
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarek on Slack
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hJDodc1xl4ixswPzAV4IAQu74sLnOOKjqecPgthLta4/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm proposing to extend the AIP page to
> > > > include a
> > > > > > > > > > description
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lifecycle of the AIP.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put a doc together with some of my
> > > > understanding
> > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > member
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw the process for AIP-31. Suggestions
> > are
> > > > > > welcome
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > encouraged!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Document proposal:
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