Love the idea of pairing :)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ry Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Karolina, I'd love to "pair" with you on this, if you're down for it.
>
> We'd like to get monthly global airflow meetups going, and content related
> to that should be in the newsletter as well. And as I mentioned before, we
> could use the Airflow Summit mailing list and brand for this newsletter so
> that we don't have to maintain 2 lists.
>
> We could setup a call for this early next week?
>
> -Ry
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:56 AM Kaxil Naik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yea some issues with "good-first-issue" labels (maybe Top 5) or something
>> like that on the newsletter would be good
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 12:47 PM Tomasz Urbaszek <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How about including new blogs / articles / tutorials? Probably a section
>>> for new contributors or contributors -to-be with still open good first
>>> issues may be a nice thing :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tomek
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:46 AM Karolina Rosół <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Monthly cadence would work best for me as well 😺 and yes I am
>>>> volunteering for this role. I can actually sum up the whole September 2020
>>>> as a starting point. Does anyone have certain needs in terms of what should
>>>> be included in such a newsletter? Except for the things that have been
>>>> mentioned already in this discussion? So far, you mentioned the following
>>>> sections:
>>>>
>>>>    - PR of the month
>>>>    - Important events
>>>>    - Recently appointed committers/PMC members [NEW]
>>>>
>>>> Anything else?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Karolina Rosół
>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Project Manager
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:38 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for the community newsletter. I also think monthly cadence is more
>>>>> reasonable. We just need to find volunteers who can maintain it
>>>>> consistently and will remember to send reminders and updates. Karo, are 
>>>>> you
>>>>> volunteering for this role? 😁
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the tools, I'm for the simplest solutions. I've used MailChimp
>>>>> before at work, not a big fan. I like the idea of using Google docs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 4:19 AM Karolina Rosół <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone want to add something to the discussion? I'd like to
>>>>>> proceed
>>>>>> with creating a draft of such a newsletter if possible.
>>>>>> @Ry would it be possible for me to join you when it comes to Airflow
>>>>>> newsletter work among Airflow Summit organizers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karolina Rosół
>>>>>> Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Project Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M: +48 606 630 236 <+48606630236>
>>>>>> E: [email protected]
>>>>>> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 9:21 PM Karolina Rosół <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > 3. Let's have a "PR of the month" section :D
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Great idea! :)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> In a past life (for the Meteor.js community), my team built a
>>>>>> >> tool where people could submit, discuss, and vote on content
>>>>>> >> newsletter-worthy content - and we automated emailing a summary of
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >> weekly, which crowdsourced the problem of collecting/sorting
>>>>>> content.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > +1 for automation Ry in regards to weekly basis. Using the data
>>>>>> gathered
>>>>>> > after each week, we can have a proper, high-quality and beautiful
>>>>>> monthly
>>>>>> > newsletter.
>>>>>> > BTW, how did you filter the emails? Were you filtering them by
>>>>>> subject
>>>>>> > lines/keywords?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Also, Polidea team can support the community with the UI/UX design
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > the newsletter
>>>>>> > if needed (provided that the HTML support by the devlist would be
>>>>>> > possible).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We're currently working on a first draft plan for this, and
>>>>>> >> lining up resources to make this happen, including a budget for
>>>>>> tools and
>>>>>> >> production.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That's great news! I've already checked some of the newsletter tools
>>>>>> > available that could be
>>>>>> > helpful and are free. Google docs support newsletter creation e.g.
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > it's super intuitive.
>>>>>> > Other than that, there's MailChimp, quite popular among various
>>>>>> companies
>>>>>> > but we won't need
>>>>>> > to manage people's e-mail addresses but send it over to the
>>>>>> devlist. Is it
>>>>>> > the right assumption?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We could merge your idea, Karolina, into this newsletter, by
>>>>>> including a
>>>>>> >> section which could highlight the good work that is being done, as
>>>>>> well as
>>>>>> >> highlight opportunities for community devs to plug in — which will
>>>>>> >> increase
>>>>>> >> the value of this newsletter.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This was my initial thought to underline the hottest topics among
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > devlist and the project
>>>>>> > in general plus list the things that might be engaging for new
>>>>>> > contributors (not only devs ;))
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Karolina Rosół
>>>>>> > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Project Manager
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > M: +48 606 630 236 <+48606630236>
>>>>>> > E: [email protected]
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>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:50 PM Ry Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I've seen it in other open source communities where someone tries
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >> maintain a somewhat detailed summary newsletter of what's going on
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> project, but weekly is a fairly brutal cadence, and it doesn't
>>>>>> usually
>>>>>> >> last
>>>>>> >> for long. In a past life (for the Meteor.js community), my team
>>>>>> built a
>>>>>> >> tool where people could submit, discuss, and vote on content
>>>>>> >> newsletter-worthy content - and we automated emailing a summary of
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >> weekly, which crowdsourced the problem of collecting/sorting
>>>>>> content.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Now if we would consider a monthly cadence, I have an idea... We
>>>>>> (the
>>>>>> >> Airflow Summit organizers) are working on a plan to produce
>>>>>> monthly online
>>>>>> >> meetups, and along with that, a high-quality monthly
>>>>>> Airflow-related email
>>>>>> >> newsletter. We're currently working on a first draft plan for
>>>>>> this, and
>>>>>> >> lining up resources to make this happen, including a budget for
>>>>>> tools and
>>>>>> >> production.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> We could merge your idea, Karolina, into this newsletter, by
>>>>>> including a
>>>>>> >> section which could highlight the good work that is being done, as
>>>>>> well as
>>>>>> >> highlight opportunities for community devs to plug in — which will
>>>>>> >> increase
>>>>>> >> the value of this newsletter.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thoughts?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -Ry
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:07 AM Tomasz Urbaszek <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> > I think it's a really good idea!
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Few points / ideas:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > 1. What tool can we use and if paid who will cover it? Is it
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> >> > to create new mailing list like `[email protected]` that
>>>>>> can be
>>>>>> >> > used for a newsletter? EDIT: devlist don't support html right?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > 2. Who should be responsible for preparing it? We will at least
>>>>>> need a
>>>>>> >> > nice template but how will care for the content? Can we automate
>>>>>> >> > something?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > 3. Let's have a "PR of the month" section :D
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Tomek
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Jarek Potiuk <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > Strong +1.
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > I reviewed and cleaned-up my inbox yesterday (and I woke up
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> >> morning
>>>>>> >> > to
>>>>>> >> > > 50+ new emails - surely some of them are for PRs and other
>>>>>> things I am
>>>>>> >> > > engaged with, but I am working on Airflow pretty much full
>>>>>> time (ir
>>>>>> >> > > sometimes I think 150% ;), but I only imagine how people must
>>>>>> feel if
>>>>>> >> > this
>>>>>> >> > > is just side-job for them.
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > And I think if it will be nicely formatted (similar to the
>>>>>> Superset
>>>>>> >> > > newsletter for those who follow it) and "stand out", that
>>>>>> might be
>>>>>> >> rather
>>>>>> >> > > useful to catch up. And it should not be that difficult - to
>>>>>> get the
>>>>>> >> > > content, I think this is just a matter of having a place where
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> >> > from
>>>>>> >> > > the community will be able to add their "important events", a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> >> bit
>>>>>> >> > of
>>>>>> >> > > nagging in slack and remind people to submit their "news" and
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> >> who
>>>>>> >> > > can nicely arrange and redact this.
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > And with 2.0 approaching and our work on it accelerating I
>>>>>> think we
>>>>>> >> > > will have enough content for weekly newsletters.
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > J
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:26 AM Karolina Rosół <
>>>>>> >> > [email protected]>
>>>>>> >> > > wrote:
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > > Hi guys,
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > Past few days I was wondering if it's a good idea to have a
>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>> >> > summary
>>>>>> >> > > > of the subjects that are being discussed among the community.
>>>>>> >> > > > It could be weekly/bi-weekly/monthly "release" but with the
>>>>>> summary
>>>>>> >> of
>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>> >> > > > subjects that are hot within the Apache Airflow community
>>>>>> atm.
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > Why would the community need a summary like this?
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > >    1. Community is getting bigger and the number of the
>>>>>> >> > discussions/votings
>>>>>> >> > > >    & other things will grow;
>>>>>> >> > > >    2. Sometimes the number of emails is simply too big to
>>>>>> handle on
>>>>>> >> a
>>>>>> >> > daily
>>>>>> >> > > >    basis;
>>>>>> >> > > >    3. Not everyone who wants to contribute will follow the
>>>>>> devlist
>>>>>> >> so
>>>>>> >> > > >    often;
>>>>>> >> > > >    4. Also, it is a great way of learning on a high level
>>>>>> what the
>>>>>> >> > > >    community is all about and maybe would help new
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >> decide
>>>>>> >> > on
>>>>>> >> > > > what
>>>>>> >> > > >    matters to invest their time? Plus for people who are
>>>>>> managers
>>>>>> >> e.g.
>>>>>> >> > and
>>>>>> >> > > >    don't understand how devlist works, they can have a sort
>>>>>> of cheat
>>>>>> >> > sheet
>>>>>> >> > > > and
>>>>>> >> > > >    be more supportive for open source initiatives within
>>>>>> various
>>>>>> >> > companies'
>>>>>> >> > > >    teams.
>>>>>> >> > > >    5. There are a couple of categories in the email subjects
>>>>>> >> currently.
>>>>>> >> > > >    However, I imagine such newsletter to be more precise yet
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >> > "bullet
>>>>>> >> > > >    point" form i.e,
>>>>>> >> > > >       - Category: Operators
>>>>>> >> > > >          - Current discussions: KubernetesPodOperator [ERROR]
>>>>>> >> > > >       - Category: Announcements
>>>>>> >> > > >          - Apache Airflow version 1.10.12 has been released!
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > To sum up, I'm not sure about the frequency of sending such a
>>>>>> >> > newsletter.
>>>>>> >> > > > In my opinion a weekly basis is the best to be able to go
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> >> all
>>>>>> >> > of
>>>>>> >> > > > the emails and then prepare a summary.
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > Let me know what you guys think and if something like that
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>> >> > useful at
>>>>>> >> > > > all.
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > Karolina Rosół
>>>>>> >> > > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Project Manager
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > M: +48 606 630 236 <+48606630236>
>>>>>> >> > > > E: [email protected]
>>>>>> >> > > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > > > Check out our projects! <https://www.polidea.com/our-work>
>>>>>> >> > > > [image: Github] <https://github.com/Polidea> [image:
>>>>>> Facebook]
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>>>>>> Instagram]
>>>>>> >> > > > <https://instagram.com/polidea> [image: Behance]
>>>>>> >> > > > <https://www.behance.net/polidea> [image: dribbble]
>>>>>> >> > > > <https://dribbble.com/polideadesign>
>>>>>> >> > > >
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > --
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > Jarek Potiuk
>>>>>> >> > > Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software
>>>>>> Engineer
>>>>>> >> > >
>>>>>> >> > > M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129>
>>>>>> >> > > [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > --
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Tomasz Urbaszek
>>>>>> >> > Polidea | Software Engineer
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > M: +48 505 628 493
>>>>>> >> > E: [email protected]
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Unique Tech
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>>>>>>
>>>>>

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