wonderful, thanks Jarek. Maybe we can discuss it further on this GitHub issue? 
- https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/22349. Please feel free to edit the 
body of my comment if you’re able to.
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nick

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 14:13, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I confirm that we can submit one submission per project :)
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 7:10 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> All right. Looks like we've got some ways to handle it (Got the
>> response from Greg/Infra and the GSoD) and seems that both approaches
>> are workable.
>> 
>> Now I think what's left is to prepare proposal(s) for the
>> documentation project(s). Nick - would that be possible to start
>> creating a doc for that?
>> 
>> And maybe others would like to join?
>> 
>> I will see in the meantime if there is a possibility to apply for more
>> than one project from Apache (which would make it even more
>> appealing).
>> 
>> J.
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 10:47 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a bit of status/update (and warning).
>>> 
>>> The new rules **might** mean that we won't be able to take part. They
>>> require the organization to receive the grants that are targeted to
>>> particular individuals, and this is against the ASF rules - as the ASF
>>> does not really pay individuals for code improvements, I am trying to
>>> check it two-fold:
>>> 
>>> * I check if we can get through ASF Infra (not very likely)
>>> * I just asked the question at the GSoD discussion list -
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/season-of-docs-discuss/c/gPdh0PYQaU4/m/ywaXlU4QAgAJ
>>> to check if they can adjust their rules.
>>> 
>>> J.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:17 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> FYI. It seems that this year the rules changed a bit and the organization 
>>>> involvement is much more "formal" (seems that ASF will have to get a grant 
>>>> and pay the writers).  I reached out to dev@community to see how we can do 
>>>> that:
>>>> 
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/x52xrnz463b3r83ykg14oztsms6681sr
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 10:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds good, thanks so much Jarek for doing what you do!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think Airflow has some incredible docs on how to use the program 
>>>>> itself. I’m interested in writing docs about how to use Airflow as a 
>>>>> team, which I don’t think is fully covered yet. Like, how should pull 
>>>>> requests work? How should a staging environment be used? (should there 
>>>>> even be one b/c duping large prod tables is tough)? How do hotfixes work? 
>>>>> Git Flow? etc. I’m interested in these things b/c I don’t have the 
>>>>> answers yet, nor do I think there’ll be a definitive one, but I think a 
>>>>> lot of people using Airflow can benefit from strong recommendations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m happy to broach other topics if you all decide and will wait on what 
>>>>> org I should submit this under before continuing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> ---
>>>>> nick
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 06:20, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Nick, Giorgio,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apologies for a little delay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Goirgio - just to clarify - would you also like to help with the Season 
>>>>> of Docs or Outreachy new round ?. The latter can only be led by PMC 
>>>>> members - rule of Outreachy, so it would need someone from the PMC to 
>>>>> sign-up as mentor]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Going back to the Season of Docs:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nick - At this stage it seems that the organizations need to sign-up to 
>>>>> participate (deadline March 25) but we would need some brainstorming on 
>>>>> Project Ideas. In the meantime I can check what's the ASF approach (if we 
>>>>> still are OK to submit as a separate project). I will ask in a separate 
>>>>> thread.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unlike in Outreachy,  I think there are no "formal" requirements for the 
>>>>> people who submit the organization.
>>>>> Last time when I did it for GSOC (April 2019) I wasn't a committer yet :) 
>>>>> - and I submitted it based on having support from Aizhamal (CC:d) and 
>>>>> other PMC members and at that time it was decided that each project from 
>>>>> Apache will apply individually rather than as the whole Apache 
>>>>> organization to increase the possible number of Technical Writers we 
>>>>> could get.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some relevant threads from 2019:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/x6ssgo2zczvfo4wd0qjwr51d03lhkrjz
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/w2qm09ovlxr4bftvjvl68f361ff6zoff
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/q4rv750mn52f1s034w9wh9lwodzj3w57
>>>>> 
>>>>> What we need I think:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - check with ASF on submission (I can take that on)
>>>>> - start brainstorming/doc on the projects we can do (looking at you Nick 
>>>>> to lead it :))
>>>>> 
>>>>> - last but not least - maybe others would like to join the effort too 
>>>>> (defining the project and guiding/helping the tech writers).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it would be great to have more contributors who are also users of 
>>>>> Airflow to help. I think as committers and PMC members - unless we are 
>>>>> also users.
>>>>> Our "assumptions" might make the user documentation we write a bit 
>>>>> cryptic, and we might not realize that some things are not clear, so if 
>>>>> we have a few heavy "users" we have who are struggling with the current 
>>>>> documentation they might guide the Technical Writer much better than 
>>>>> committers. That might be a fantastic contribution to the project :).
>>>>> 
>>>>> J.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 5:32 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, just to be clear, I’d be submitting an application for myself on 
>>>>>> behalf of Airflow here? Thanks,
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> nick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 17:50, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is cool. Thanks Nick and Giorgio !
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let me just forward the message about google season of docs (see below).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think there are also more people interested in making our 
>>>>>> documentation better - so maybe a few more volunteers will pop up :)
>>>>>> The deadline to apply is 25 of March - I think having a technical writer 
>>>>>> who can help with that might be cool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe someone would like to take a lead in defining the scope of the 
>>>>>> project - what to improve, what focus, what we want to achieve etc. :). 
>>>>>> For example starting a shared doc with some proposals. I think that 
>>>>>> might be a good start. Once we see that we have a concrete proposal, I 
>>>>>> can take it on and find out what to do to make ASF apply :).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WDYT? anyone who would like to take a lead on that :) ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> 发件人: Season of Docs - Announce <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 2022年2月24日周四 01:20
>>>>>> Subject: [Season of Docs - Announcements] 2022 organization applications
>>>>>> are now open
>>>>>> To: Season of Docs - Announce <[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Open source organizations can now submit applications to participate in
>>>>>> Season of Docs! The deadline to apply is March 25, 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
>>>>>> Season of Docs allows open source organizations to apply for a grant 
>>>>>> based
>>>>>> on their documentation needs. If selected, open source organizations will
>>>>>> use their grant to hire a technical writer directly to complete their
>>>>>> documentation project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How does my organization apply to take part in Season of Docs?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take a look at the examples of project ideas
>>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas>, then
>>>>>> create a project proposal
>>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-proposal-template>
>>>>>> based on your open source project’s actual documentation needs. Your goal
>>>>>> is to attract technical writers to your organization, making them feel
>>>>>> comfortable about approaching the organization and excited about what 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can achieve.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Organizations can submit their applications here: https://goo.gle/3dRyD7P
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSehVjMLUjnoPgS8kX4ErpE76N-KWc3AgrCyCxe7bRrtDm6tew/closedform?resourcekey=0-GIaZX6zeX6zvB58FARfOHQ>.
>>>>>> Organization applications close on March 25th at 18:00 UTC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Season of Docs allows open source organizations to apply for a grant 
>>>>>> based
>>>>>> on their documentation needs. If selected, open source organizations will
>>>>>> use their grant to hire a technical writer directly to complete their
>>>>>> documentation project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do technical writers take part in Season of Docs?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Technical writers interested in working with accepted open source
>>>>>> organizations can share their contact information via the Season of Docs
>>>>>> GitHub repository <https://github.com/google/season-of-docs>; or they may
>>>>>> submit proposals directly to the organizations using the contact
>>>>>> information shared on the organization project page. Technical writers do
>>>>>> not submit a formal application through Season of Docs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Technical writers interested in participating in the 2022 Season of Docs
>>>>>> should read our guide for technical writers
>>>>>> <https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide> on
>>>>>> the Season of Docs website. Please note that technical writer recruiting
>>>>>> began on February 3, 2022.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For more information about the program visit the Season of Docs site
>>>>>> <http://developers.google.com/season-of-docs>. If you have additional
>>>>>> questions, please email the Season of Docs team at 
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Season of Docs team
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:30 PM Giorgio Zoppi <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Same here Jarek,
>>>>>>> I am willing to help. This has been the reason that I joined the last 
>>>>>>> call. It will nice to have a better monitoring.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 

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