Anybody else?

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Yaniv Rodenski <ya...@shinto.io> wrote:

> Thanks Davor,
>
> Points taken, we will learn and improve on those.
>
> Just one clearification, I was not blaming the mentor I myself was more
> focused on working with Guy on automating the build than following up.
> Rereading my own response I can see that was unclear.
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:02 am, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for a great response. Some comments inline.
> >
> > * In the last month we have been working on automating the release
> process
> > > via Travis, we are still trying to enable Travis build for the
> Amaterasu
> > > repo, which is taking ridiculously long. We need one of the mentors to
> > just
> > > enable it via their account (I've already talked a couple of times to
> one
> > > of the mentors about it).
> > >
> >
> > Searching for 'travis' in the mailing list archives doesn't yield any
> > discussion threads.
> >
> > Mentors don't have permission to do this themselves. Infra JIRA is the
> way
> > to do it, but I couldn't find such JIRA ticket filed.
> >
> > Emailing one mentor directly (or any other community member) isn't a way
> to
> > build the community. Things need to be discussed in public whenever
> > possible.
> >
> > Given the above, blaming a mentor (whomever you may be referring to)
> > doesn't make sense.
> >
> > * We are ready to release version 0.2.0-incubating, the reason it took
> us a
> > > month to initiate the process is the above automated build, which I
> > > suggested in prior discussion and had no rejections. We will complete
> > this
> > > once build is enabled.
> > >
> >
> > The release itself is a great milestone, but not the purpose to itself.
> >
> >
> > > * as for community growth, we are working with two organizations on
> > running
> > > POCs (which will hopefully grow the user base) one of them is due to
> > start
> > > very soon. I don't want to name them (first of all it's too early, and
> > also
> > > it is for them to decide if they want to share) but a representative
> from
> > > at least one of those organisations is on the list and is welcomed to
> > share
> > > :)
> > >
> >
> > Great!
> >
> >
> > > * This year I've seen contributions from 4 contributors (not much more
> > than
> > > 3, I know) but one of them is new (Guy Peleg) and AFAIK additional
> > > longer-term work is done by one more contributor on his local fork
> (Nadav
> > > Har-Tzvi)
> > >
> >
> > I think this is the crux of the problem. Why is longer-term work going on
> > in a local fork?
> >
> >
> > > * We should be presenting more, and growing the community more which is
> > > hard to do starting out as a tiny community. Any advice given there
> would
> > > be appreciated.
> > >
> >
> > The first thing has to be do the basics well: on-list communication, open
> > discussions, no side channels, etc.
> >
> --
> Yaniv Rodenski
>
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> ya...@shinto.io
>

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