Hi All,

Sorry for replying late. I just returned back from the vacation and
checking all my emails. We are in this project for sure and going forward
my engagement with the project will be more.

Once again I apologise for getting back late.

Regards,
Kirupa.

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:

> To close the loop on this...
>
> Without going too deep... just two individuals responding on this thread in
> 10 days is way too little, given 5 PPMC members and 6 months in incubation.
>
> One thing worth clarifying -- to succeed as an Apache project, yes, a lot
> of change is needed. However, I'm *not* saying that there's anything wrong
> with the project. Just I'm not sure that the project and the foundation are
> the right fit at this moment. Nothing wrong with that -- there are many,
> many ways to succeed as a project.
>
> I continue to be enthusiastic about this space and continue to be happy to
> help, as appropriate. That said, I'll revive this thread in 1-2 months to
> check on the progress. If there's no evidence of progress, it may be best
> to rethink the path forward then.
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Eyal Ben-Ivri <eyalbeni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi to all,
> >
> > Sorry for not replying sooner, but I have been following the thread
> > closely.
> >
> > It is quite obvious we need to find more people that will be active in
> the
> > Amaterasu project.
> > Yaniv and myself are often communicating through private channels (and I
> > believe other developers are doing the same), and as an improvement, we
> > need to make Amaterasu related discussions through this mailing list.
> > A lot of the features and milestones discussions (some of them are
> > mentioned here like the Travis build) should be discussed here, and that
> is
> > something all of the active developers of the project should start to do,
> > in my opinion.
> >
> > Besides that, i agree with all the points raised here, and do think that
> > the main “beyond-the-code” goal should be growing the community around
> > Amaterasu.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Eyal
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27. March 2018 at 07:12:04, Davor Bonaci (da...@apache.org) wrote:
> >
> > Anybody else?
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Yaniv Rodenski <ya...@shinto.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Davor,
> > >
> > > Points taken, we will learn and improve on those.
> > >
> > > Just one clearification, I was not blaming the mentor I myself was more
> > > focused on working with Guy on automating the build than following up.
> > > Rereading my own response I can see that was unclear.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:02 am, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for a great response. Some comments inline.
> > > >
> > > > * In the last month we have been working on automating the release
> > > process
> > > > > via Travis, we are still trying to enable Travis build for the
> > > Amaterasu
> > > > > repo, which is taking ridiculously long. We need one of the mentors
> > to
> > > > just
> > > > > enable it via their account (I've already talked a couple of times
> to
> > > one
> > > > > of the mentors about it).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Searching for 'travis' in the mailing list archives doesn't yield any
> > > > discussion threads.
> > > >
> > > > Mentors don't have permission to do this themselves. Infra JIRA is
> the
> > > way
> > > > to do it, but I couldn't find such JIRA ticket filed.
> > > >
> > > > Emailing one mentor directly (or any other community member) isn't a
> > way
> > > to
> > > > build the community. Things need to be discussed in public whenever
> > > > possible.
> > > >
> > > > Given the above, blaming a mentor (whomever you may be referring to)
> > > > doesn't make sense.
> > > >
> > > > * We are ready to release version 0.2.0-incubating, the reason it
> took
> > > us a
> > > > > month to initiate the process is the above automated build, which I
> > > > > suggested in prior discussion and had no rejections. We will
> complete
> > > > this
> > > > > once build is enabled.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The release itself is a great milestone, but not the purpose to
> itself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > * as for community growth, we are working with two organizations on
> > > > running
> > > > > POCs (which will hopefully grow the user base) one of them is due
> to
> > > > start
> > > > > very soon. I don't want to name them (first of all it's too early,
> > and
> > > > also
> > > > > it is for them to decide if they want to share) but a
> representative
> > > from
> > > > > at least one of those organisations is on the list and is welcomed
> to
> > > > share
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Great!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > * This year I've seen contributions from 4 contributors (not much
> > more
> > > > than
> > > > > 3, I know) but one of them is new (Guy Peleg) and AFAIK additional
> > > > > longer-term work is done by one more contributor on his local fork
> > > (Nadav
> > > > > Har-Tzvi)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think this is the crux of the problem. Why is longer-term work
> going
> > on
> > > > in a local fork?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > * We should be presenting more, and growing the community more
> which
> > is
> > > > > hard to do starting out as a tiny community. Any advice given there
> > > would
> > > > > be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The first thing has to be do the basics well: on-list communication,
> > open
> > > > discussions, no side channels, etc.
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Yaniv Rodenski
> > >
> > > +61 477 778 405
> > > ya...@shinto.io
> > >
> >
>

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