According to [1] projects that have no active committers are good candidates for the attic.
The last commit in Apex was in June 2018, which is a very long time ago. No activity other than this attic discussion on dev@ for 3 months and one lonely email on users@. Do those that are not ready to vote for the attic move have a timeout in mind to revisit this discussion? Regarding bar for contributions: We are at zero contributions for a long time now. Without reference this isn't super useful to discuss and a debate that is reduced to "high" and "low" is just subjective. Contributor experience is critical, should be paid attention to, and there is always room for improvement. From my own experience as contributor to multiple other projects I would consider the bar rather moderate. Regarding candidates for committer/PMC: I don't see any that could be discussed (and then this would happen on private@). But we would need active contributors with interest in the project. Thomas [1] https://attic.apache.org/ On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:14 PM Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote: > Let’s not to fool ourselves and the community. Without active > contributions and support for k8s, jdk 11, hadoop 3.x, kafka 2.x chance > that any new enterprise will bet on Apex instead of Spark or Flink is zero. > > Thank you, > > Vlad > > > On Jan 8, 2019, at 13:56, Pramod Immaneni <pramod.imman...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I think it is definitely possible and would also second that it is a > great > > streaming technology. It's still in use, we use it at our workplace. I > > would also add that it is not necessary that all streaming technologies > > look the same, follow the same bandwagon and have the same capabilities > to > > be deemed useful or relevant. Being different is what made Apex unique in > > the first place when everyone was going the sql route. > > > > Thanks > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:32 PM Ilya Ganelin <ilgan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Seems like a shame - I think it's still the best open source streaming > >> technology out there. If there's no pressing need to retire it, why do > so? > >> It's possible some enterprise may pick it up and revive it - seems > that's > >> more likely if it's not hidden away in the 'attic'. > >> -Ilya Ganelin > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:24 PM Pramod Immaneni < > pramod.imman...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I would like to point out that there is no agreement among the project > >> PMCs > >>> that the project should go to attic, not many are for it and quite a > few > >>> oppose it. If a PMC member or committer cannot or does not wish to > >>> participate at any time, they can choose to remain inactive, there is > no > >>> obligation. If someone feels strongly that they rather not remain > >> inactive > >>> while being part of the project they can choose to resign, although > that > >>> would be largely regrettable. Jan end sounds reasonable for the > >> submission > >>> although it’s outcome should not determine the future of the project. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:09 PM Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Let’s agree on ETA (by end of January?) for the contribution. Also, > one > >>>> contribution in several months is not sufficient to keep project > >> active, > >>>> IMO. Anybody else, especially other PMCs? > >>>> > >>>> Thank you, > >>>> > >>>> Vlad > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 7, 2019, at 12:06, Pramod Immaneni <pramod.imman...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, I have an operator that I am trying to get clearance on before > >>>>> submitting. Will likely need a maven server to host a dependency > >> that's > >>>> not > >>>>> on central. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:08 AM Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Does anyone plan to contribute to the project in the near future? > >>>>>> Otherwise, I plan to submit a vote to move the project to Apache > >>> attic. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Vlad > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Pramod > >>>>> http://ts.la/pramod3443 > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>> Thanks, > >>> Pramod > >>> http://ts.la/pramod3443 > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > Pramod > > http://ts.la/pramod3443 > >
