I think it would be constructive to find answers to relevant questions that
came up:

* Who is going to contribute to the project?
* Is there code in private forks that can be contributed?
* What is the estimated timeline for such contributions?
* Are there any other opportunities to recruit/re-engage contributors?

This isn't about wanting or not wanting a move to attic. That should be a
consequence of status of the project; inline with ASF policies.

Thomas


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 9:22 AM Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote:

> Remember that to vote -1 it is necessary to provide justification, so I’d
> like to see the justifications and the plan from those who do not want to
> move Apex to the attic. I am also not very happy that my past efforts will
> be placed in the attic, but let’s face the reality. It is not that I don’t
> want to be involved in the project, but as the PMC I am responsible for
> maintaining the correct state of the project and with the current level of
> contributions, IMO, it belongs the the attic.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Vlad
>
> > On Jan 9, 2019, at 09:02, Pramod Immaneni <pramod.imman...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > What would be the purpose of such a vote? From the discussions it is
> quite
> > apparent that there is a significant, possibly majority view that project
> > shouldn’t go to attic. The same could be reported to the board, can’t it?
> > Like I also said if you or others don’t like where the project is at and
> > feel it is a dead end, you don’t have to continue to be involved with the
> > project and that’s your prerogative. Let others who want to continue,
> take
> > it forward, why try to force your will on to everyone.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 8:43 AM Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Without concrete details of what will be committed (support for k8s,
> >> hadoop 3.x, kafka 2.x, etc) and what requirements in code submission
> needs
> >> to be relaxed (well written java code, consistent code style, successful
> >> build with passing unit tests in CI, providing unit test, etc) the
> >> statements below are way too vague. Note that I started this e-mail
> thread
> >> with the intention to see what contributions the community may expect.
> >> Without concrete details of the future contribution, I’ll submit a vote
> by
> >> end of January.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Vlad
> >>
> >>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 00:47, priyanka gugale <pri...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I do believe and know of some work done in private forks by people.
> There
> >>> could be couple of reasons why it didn't go public. One could be high
> bar
> >>> for code submission (I don't have references at hand but that's general
> >>> feeling amongst committers) and other could be lack of motivation.
> >>>
> >>> Let's try to put some efforts to re-survive the work, motivate
> >> committers,
> >>> and take hard decisions later if nothing works. A product like Apex /
> >>> Malhar definitely deserves to survive.
> >>>
> >>> -Priyanka
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:07 PM Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The reason for a private fork was due to potential IP conflicts with
> >>>> my current organization. I am working to get approvals and clearances,
> >>>> and post that, shall publish the said effort.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:02 PM Justin Mclean <
> jus...@classsoftware.com
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a private fork for an experimental project. It might be open
> >>>>>> sourced in a couple of months.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’m curious, if you don’t mind answering a couple of questions:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As you are a committer on this project is there any reason that this
> >>>> work wasn’t done in public fork or even better on a branch of the Apex
> >>>> repo? Why would a delay of a couple of months be required? If it’s “it
> >>>> might be” what realistically are the chances of that happening?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Justin
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Atri
> >>>> Apache Concerted
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> > Thanks,
> > Pramod
> > http://ts.la/pramod3443
>
>

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