We have addressed the items that were brought up during the initial
graduation discussion.

The next step would be preparation of resolution and community vote.

I think it is time for Apex to graduate and become a top level project.
What's your take?

Thanks,
Thomas


On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Sasha Parfenov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Following up an earlier question by Justin, I have verified that all
> contributors to original docs repository are covered by ICLA.  See comments
> in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-293 for details.
>
> Thanks,
> Sasha
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Chris Nauroth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > That's a good point.  Maybe defer this until the last possible moment
> > before launching the IPMC vote.  It's unlikely that you'll change the
> > committer or PMC roster during the vote, so that ought to reduce the
> > likelihood of double maintenance burden.
> >
> > --Chris Nauroth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/27/16, 11:36 PM, "Thomas Weise" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Chris,
> > >
> > >Thanks, this is very helpful. I have created tickets for these items
> (hope
> > >you don't mind I made you the reporter):
> > >
> > >https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql
> > >=project%20%3D%20APEXCORE%20and%20labels%20%3D%20tlp
> > >
> > >I was under the impression that the "Who We Are" page should be setup at
> > >time of graduation to replace the information on the status page. But if
> > >it
> > >is best practice, we will do the double maintenance ;-)
> > >
> > >Thanks again,
> > >Thomas
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Chris Nauroth <
> [email protected]>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I agree that it's good to start the graduation discussion, pending
> > >> resolution of the documentation and release items mentioned by other
> > >> mentors in the thread.  I've been very impressed with this community's
> > >> level of activity and openness.
> > >>
> > >> I took a pass through the maturity model, and I'd like to call out the
> > >> items that may need additional work.  I also have pointed out examples
> > >>of
> > >> how an existing project meets these criteria.  (I used Hadoop, because
> > >> it's the project I know best.)
> > >>
> > >> This exercise is best done as a self-evaluation by the most involved
> > >> contributors, so it's possible that my perspective is incomplete.  I
> > >> encourage more of the deeply involved community members to review the
> > >> maturity model in detail and draw their own conclusions.
> > >>
> > >> Also, I want to make sure it's clear that the maturity model is not an
> > >> absolute list of requirements.  It is the community's choice on
> whether
> > >>or
> > >> not to address these points before a graduation proposal.  However,
> some
> > >> IPMC members do use the maturity model as a checklist to gauge the
> > >>health
> > >> of a podling, so you'll bolster your case for graduation with the
> wider
> > >> IPMC if you choose to take action on them.  I also think all of these
> > >> things are generally good for the project anyway, so it's not just a
> > >> matter of satisfying bureaucratic demands.
> > >>
> > >> QU30
> > >> The project provides a well-documented channel to report security
> > >>issues,
> > >> along with a documented way of responding to them.
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't find a security vulnerability process documented at
> > >> apex.incubator.apache.org.  Example:
> > >> http://hadoop.apache.org/mailing_lists.html
> > >>
> > >> QU40
> > >> The project puts a high priority on backwards compatibility and aims
> to
> > >> document any incompatible changes and provide tools and documentation
> to
> > >> help users transition to new features.
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't find backwards-compatibility guidelines documented at
> > >> apex.incubator.apache.org.  Example:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r2.7.2/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-common/Co
> > >>mp
> > >> atibility.html
> > >>
> > >> CS10
> > >> The project maintains a public list of its contributors who have
> > >>decision
> > >> power -- the project's PMC (Project Management Committee) consists of
> > >> those contributors.
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't find a "Who We Are" page at apex.incubator.apache.org.  I
> > >>think
> > >> the information is accurate in the incubation status page though.
> > >> Example: https://hadoop.apache.org/who.html
> > >>
> > >> CS30
> > >> Documented voting rules are used to build consensus when discussion is
> > >>not
> > >> sufficient.
> > >>
> > >> I couldn't find any statement of this.  Example:
> > >> http://hadoop.apache.org/bylaws.html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --Chris Nauroth
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 1/25/16, 2:28 PM, "Sandesh Hegde" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >+1
> > >> >
> > >> >Code: CD50
> > >> >Licenses and Copyright: LC50
> > >> >Quality: QU50
> > >> >Community: CO50
> > >> >Independence: IN20
> > >> >Releases: RE40
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:09 PM Justin Mclean
> > >><[email protected]>
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It¹s not required but you might want to rate yourself with this [1]
> > >> >>like a
> > >> >> few other projects have done. [2][3]
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Justin
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.htm
> > >> >>l
> > >> >> 2. https://zest.apache.org/community/maturity.html
> > >> >> 3.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/groovy/blob/576b3c5d6a7022ac4a8df1ef118666456ce
> > >> >>627fb/MATURITY.adoc
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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