Hi all,

I was going to add this to Rony's question in http://api.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=19428 but may be is better to start a new thread.

First, to Rony's question about exporting to PDF, I'd add the idea to export to ODT and even HTML: I (and know others also) don't like the PDF format at all (it's a heavy format and it's not editable [unless you pay some software or wait for OOo PDF import]), and prefer HTML, and of course an editable ODT version will be the best option.

Second I find the main drawback in the way how the Dev's Guide is structured in the Wiki: it has been split into small pages, so that now in order to find something I must spend three times or even more than I used when a whole chapter was in only one page.

Of course I am aware of the search enhancements in http://api.openoffice.org, but this is also more time-consuming, compared to when I just opened a whole chapter in Firefox, and did Ctrl + F to open the Search bottom bar, typed a word and highlighted all the occurrences.

Also the navigator on the right side of the wiki pages has its disadvantages: if you want to see the content inside one "node" you have to select this and open the corresponding page to see more levels.

I give a long (sorry) example so that you can understand what I mean:

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[begin of the example, go the end if you don't have time ;-) ]

for example, to my answer in http://api.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=19435 I already knew that UNO IDL types where introduced on the First Steps chapter, but didn't remember exactly where

so I go to the main page
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide

in the navigator I click on the First Steps link that opens
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/FirstSteps/First_Steps

but there I get completely lost: I know that what I'm looking for is there, but to search it I have to start opening every node/link in the navigator on the right, in order to expand its content/subnodes. At least I must browse the four first links until I click "Working with Objects", that opens http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/FirstSteps/Working_with_Objects and expands the nodes
*  Working with Objects
    * Objects, Interfaces, and Services
    * Using Services
    * Example: Working with a Spreadsheet Document
    * Common Types
    * Struct
    * Any
    * Sequence
    * Element Access

where I find "Common Types", what I was looking for.

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This all is a waste of time, and searching in api.openoffice.org is no good solution at all, because I would have to try with different word combinations to find what I want, etc., while I *already* knew where it was, but it was just hard to find (that's why I ended up opening my old, out-of-date, xhtml copy of the Dev's Guide, searched in the First Steps chapter, and once I knew the location went to the wiki). A main table of contents isn't neither the answer when one wants to see/expand the chapter contents from *within* the current page.

So here I'd suggest to implement the navigator as a tree (I've seen this with html list + JavaScript, don't know if it's possible in this case) and of course I'd like the option to see a whole chapter in one page.

Notice that this is not a critique to the idea of moving the Developer's Guide on the Wiki, which in fact I find a great idea for keeping it up-to-date and easier to contribute. But as I spend most of my free time working with OOo's API and the Dev's Guide, the actual state of the Dev's Guide wiki version makes me waste a lot of time in comparison to the one-chapter-per-page version. Finally I'm also aware that I may be the one who's wrong here, and I may have to change my way of working...but as one gets older...

Regards
Ariel.


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Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

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                - Was mich nicht umbringt,
        macht mich härter."
                Nietzsche Götzendämmerung, Sprüche und Pfeile, 8.

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