Ideally remove it.

Next option, just make it like 1 line?

- Ray

On Mon., Aug. 10, 2020, 4:45 p.m. David Jencks, <david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Of course.  What do you suggest?
>
> David
>
> > On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > Can we reduce/simplify the footer a little bit with all the antora
> details?
> >
> > - Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:58 PM David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> WD_Y_T?  https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html
> >>
> >> Looks good to me, shall I commit it?
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com
> .INVALID>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> WDYT?
> >>>
> >>> - Ray
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:42 PM Raymond Auge <
> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>>
> wrote:
> >>> working on it...
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:41 AM David Jencks <
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> >>> If you can fix or get fixed the logo that would be fantastic!
> >>>
> >>> David Jencks
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com
> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>
> >> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com 
> >> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we at least fix the logo? It's really bad :D
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone opposed to removing the text from the logo so we can just use
> >> markup?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Ray
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:47 AM David Jencks <
> >> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> You can clone what I have now, but I wonder if we should get the
> >>>>> publishing steps working and get the repos under aries first, on the
> >> theory
> >>>>> that the preview is as good as the current site :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com
> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>
> >> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>.INVALID>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @djenks I took a quick look at the preview site and it looks fine to
> >> me.
> >>>>>> The logo is clearly in terrible shape ;) but we can fix that I
> >> think. I
> >>>>>> happen to know a graphic artist who might be able to fix it and turn
> >> it
> >>>>>> into a higher quality version (ideally svg, if we could find the
> >> source
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>> the image that would be the best route.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now, as far as I can tell, a lot of the site content is super
> >> outdated
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>> I don't believe anyone has maintained `Application` for a very long
> >> time.
> >>>>>> Also, there is no central build anymore so almost all the "Building
> >>>>> Aries"
> >>>>>> is wrong since most projects are standalone builds. I would remove
> >> almost
> >>>>>> all of that stuff.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once you have a repo with docs I can clone maybe I can take a crack
> >> at
> >>>>>> removing some of the cruft.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:11 AM Raymond Auge <
> >> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com> <mailto:
> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey so I don't want to interrupt since it seems like you guys are
> >>>>> running
> >>>>>>> with this and I don't want to start a parallel stream.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> One key point I want to make sure we all consider is that there
> >> _are_ at
> >>>>>>> slew of external projects (cdi, component-dsl, containers,
> >>>>>>> jaxrs-whiteboard, journaled-events, jpa, rsa, tx-control) that need
> >> to
> >>>>>>> somehow be integrated into the process with the caveat that their
> >> own
> >>>>> site
> >>>>>>> content should really be in their own repository alongside the
> >> source
> >>>>> code,
> >>>>>>> again for simplicity.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I thought Antora could do that (since it had a git client build
> >> it), but
> >>>>>>> now I'm no longer sure about that?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:48 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Le dim. 9 août 2020 à 16:43, David Jencks <
> >> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>> a
> >>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Well, your talend example
> >>>>>>>>> - isn’t self contained
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As mentionned, just used it as a proof we dont need a front build.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - doesn’t have the css and js processing/compression/checking that
> >> a
> >>>>> built
> >>>>>>>>> Antora UI has
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Only for customizations which does not impact perfs - or is likely
> >>>>> faster
> >>>>>>>> than a custom fulll build like antora thanks cdn.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> which would get a -1 from me.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It also has the script references in head-meta.hbs rather than
> >>>>>>>>> head-scripts.hbs, I have to wonder why.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To have script per page and not global without a complex if logic,
> >> not
> >>>>>>>> needed for aries.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have no problem with a bootstrap based UI if the above problems
> >> are
> >>>>>>>>> fixed, but constructing one is beyond my current abilities or
> >>>>> interest.
> >>>>>>>>> Since generally no one is interested in websites let alone their
> >> UI I
> >>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>> sticking with the simplest possible modification of the default
> UI
> >>>>> makes
> >>>>>>>>> sense.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I wouldnt use antora like ui, it is not that common for aries or
> >> asf
> >>>>> users
> >>>>>>>> and requires a lot of tuning to make it doc friendly - talend
> >> flavor
> >>>>> was
> >>>>>>>> done with a doc team and layout was not (upfront) obvious for me.
> >>>>>>>> Guess we cna inherit the nav mecanism.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:27 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 20:25, David Jencks <
> >> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>>
> >> a
> >>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 08:46, David Jencks <
> >>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Supplemental UI is a horrible workaround for the insufficient
> >> UI
> >>>>>>>>>>> builder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve somewhat improved the UI builder by making it a separate
> >>>>>>>> project,
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> making it able to aggregate lots of UI bits:
> >> antora-ui-builder <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gitlab.com/djencks/antora-ui-builder <
> https://gitlab.com/djencks/antora-ui-builder> <
> >> https://gitlab.com/djencks/antora-ui-builder <
> https://gitlab.com/djencks/antora-ui-builder>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If we go with it, can we fork it at asf?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not depending on one - even very good ;) - man project is
> >> always
> >>>>>>>> saner,
> >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> already bite us by the past.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I hesitated to suggest using it for that reason.  We can’t fork
> >> it
> >>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache (mpl2.0) but anyone can fork it at GitLab.  After
> working
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> node.js stuff for a few months I have the impression that the
> >> vast
> >>>>>>>>> majority
> >>>>>>>>>>> of node projects are one-man efforts.  The idea of a builder is
> >> an
> >>>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>>>>>> issue in the default UI, but I got tired of waiting and wrote
> >> one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The other reason I think my builder to start with is reasonable
> >> is
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> it’s very easy to turn a project using it into a fork of the
> >> default
> >>>>>>>> UI.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now we can just move on bootstrap and use cdn, supplemental ui
> >> is
> >>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>> mainly just about hbs/templates and does not need much front
> >> build
> >>>>>>>> (as
> >>>>>>>>>>> most
> >>>>>>>>>>>> asf sites).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I don’t understand what you mean, could you clarify?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think we’ll want to change the colors (at least I do) which
> >>>>>>>> involves
> >>>>>>>>> css
> >>>>>>>>>>> which can’t be done with supplemental UI.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It can since you fully control the templates - this is what is
> >> done
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> link i shared on a bootstrap base.
> >>>>>>>>>> Just tune the hbs template.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m planning to set up a UI project using this for Aries
> >> tomorrow
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> include the logo, Apache feather, and perhaps lunr search…
> >> that’s
> >>>>>>>> why
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> asking if Aries has a favorite color :-)  Using my ui-builder
> >>>>>>>> project
> >>>>>>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tie us to something less likely to be maintained than Antora,
> >> but
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly separates the alterations from the default UI
> >> clearly,
> >>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> forking does not.  Lets get something that looks good and
> >> discuss
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> further.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree checking all the links is a good idea :-).  Camel
> >> uses the
> >>>>>>>>> xref
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> checker and a link checker, I think I’ve seen a different
> link
> >>>>>>>> checker
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> strongly recommended, I’ll try to find it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that the “full content” should be one
> “old”
> >>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that the “currently relevant content” should be a separate
> >>>>> “latest”
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version?  Otherwise I’m not sure what you are suggesting.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 11:17 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the theme, Dan says default one is not for prod so we
> >>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>> fork
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and just do an aries theme instead of inheriting from
> default
> >>>>> one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/tree/master/documentation/src/main/antora/supplemental-ui
> <
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/tree/master/documentation/src/main/antora/supplemental-ui
> >
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/tree/master/documentation/src/main/antora/supplemental-ui
> <
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/tree/master/documentation/src/main/antora/supplemental-ui
> >
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can help to bootstrap it (needs to import a few tpl from
> >> default
> >>>>>>>>> antora
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> theme). It is based on bootstrap but any stack works.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the content: I'd ensure current links - except
> >> index.hml -
> >>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken and maybe register new clean up content on antora
> >> version?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Know tomee did it, got a clean site, then imported back old
> >>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> made the site messy so not fully sure we should do it but
> the
> >>>>>>>> clean
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> got some nice feedback  from users.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 02:48, David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve done about 90% of (5).  What remains is mostly escaped
> >> html
> >>>>>>>>> links
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tables.  I suspect this can be condensed using attributes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at the preview
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>
> >> <https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>
> >> <https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>>>.
> >>>>> A
> >>>>>>>>> lot
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the content looks to me as if it may be totally obsolete
> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> misleading
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the site might be improved by removing it.  Fixing the html
> >>>>> links
> >>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticeable amount of work and if we’re going to drop the
> >> pages
> >>>>>>>> I’d
> >>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid doing it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next step is to refine the left side nav.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 3:37 PM, David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s my idea :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The current site doesn’t seem very themed.  Does Aries
> >> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>> favorite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> color?  I find a color distinction between header and
> >> footer and
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> body a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice framing of the content.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW I’m most of the way through (5).  I realize I
> >> committed the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “author-mode” local version of the playbook, I’ll fix that
> >> when
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> commit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the asciidoc fixes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also BTW, svn2git creates a new git repo, which is where
> >> we are
> >>>>>>>>> now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never done it but think that by adding it as a remote
> >> to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> main
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> git
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo I’ll be able to merge in the site as a merge from a
> >> branch.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose a first draft of the nav file could mirror the
> >>>>>>>> directly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure…. right now it’s just an alphabetical list of all
> >>>>>>>> pages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is the plan to add all sources (git repos) and do the
> >>>>>>>> theme? (I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le ven. 7 août 2020 à 20:25, David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve done 1-3, and 4 enough to build a site with all
> adoc
> >>>>>>>> pages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nav.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Site is previewed at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html> <
> >> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>>
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html> <
> >> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>>
> >>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>> Note
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is not a web server, and some things that work on a
> >> web
> >>>>>>>>> server
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you an error. I don’t know of any with this particular
> >>>>>>>> preview,
> >>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume something will necessarily be broken if it
> doesn’t
> >>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Git repos from which this is built:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content:  aries-antora-site <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora-site <
> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora-site> <
> >> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora-site <
> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora-site>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antora playbook:  aries-antora <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora <
> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora> <
> >> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora <
> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To build it yourself, install node and npm.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clone the aries-antora <
> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora <
> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora> <
> >> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora <
> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playbook
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run npm run clean-build.  The site will be under build.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I left the mdtext files in place next to the adoc
> >>>>>>>> translations so
> >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be easy to check back when looking for errors.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:25 PM, David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at this briefly…
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think the following steps will lead us to a nice
> >> Antora
> >>>>>>>> site:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. convert the svn to a git repo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. translate the .markdown files to asciidoc in place
> >> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kramdown-asciidoc asciidoctor/kramdown-asciidoc: A
> >> kramdown
> >>>>>>>> ... -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHubgithub.com <http://githubgithub.com/> ›
> asciidoctor › kramdown-asciidoc <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6mdCO9oXrAhWwJDQIHYAeCt0QFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fasciidoctor%2Fkramdown-asciidoc&usg=AOvVaw2sOAmH3_x0kdG3iuFoZ7OX
> <
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6mdCO9oXrAhWwJDQIHYAeCt0QFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fasciidoctor%2Fkramdown-asciidoc&usg=AOvVaw2sOAmH3_x0kdG3iuFoZ7OX
> >
> >> <
> >>
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6mdCO9oXrAhWwJDQIHYAeCt0QFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fasciidoctor%2Fkramdown-asciidoc&usg=AOvVaw2sOAmH3_x0kdG3iuFoZ7OX
> <
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6mdCO9oXrAhWwJDQIHYAeCt0QFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fasciidoctor%2Fkramdown-asciidoc&usg=AOvVaw2sOAmH3_x0kdG3iuFoZ7OX
> >
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (there will be plenty of errors to fix….)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Move the content to an Antora structure with some
> >> minimal
> >>>>>>>>>>> amount
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (re)organization.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Set up Antora navigation, build, and UI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Fix the asciidoc errors.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Consider what further reorganization is appropriate,
> >> such
> >>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> moving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the docs for (sub)projects to those subprojects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Figure out how to use the Apache publish-to-git
> >> system
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Refine the UI.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it will be simplest if I just do steps 1-4.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There seems to already be a git aries-site repo that
> >> looks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> abandoned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I move the current content to a different branch and
> >> use
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments? Objections?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>
> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .INVALID
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID <mailto:
> raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID> <mailto:
> >> raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID <mailto:
> raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/ <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/> <
> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/ <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/ <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/> <
> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/ <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:36 PM David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked around a little bit and couldn’t find the
> >> source
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website.  Is it hidden somewhere in Apache CMS svn?
> >> Does
> >>>>>>>>> anyone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buildbot uses bash so just ensure node is there - a
> >> bit
> >>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> travis
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if not download it and that's it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively frontend plugin works well as
> >> mzntionned by
> >>>>>>>>>>> David:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/blob/master/documentation/pom.xml#L567
> <
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/blob/master/documentation/pom.xml#L567
> >
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/blob/master/documentation/pom.xml#L567
> <
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/blob/master/documentation/pom.xml#L567
> >
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 21:27, David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In typical apache fashion, there doesn’t appear to
> >> be
> >>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>> actual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about how to use buildbot or what it
> can
> >>>>> do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buildbot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be a general purpose tool.  It’s possible
> >> to
> >>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Antora
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maven, so if we can’t figure out any more direct
> >>>>>>>> approach we
> >>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building on GitHub using GitHub actions might be
> >> another
> >>>>>>>>>>> option:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely possible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>
> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .INVALID>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like antora requires node.js to build?
> Can
> >>>>>>>> such a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF buildbot jobs?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:46 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:
> rmannibu...@gmail.com> <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:
> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, also enables to trivially generate doc
> >>>>>>>> parts/partials
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important for all the configuration IMHO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau <
> https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> <
> >> https://twitter.com/rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>>> |
> >>>>> Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/ <
> https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> <
> >> https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/ <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/>>>
> | Old Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com <
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> <
> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>>>
> | Github <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau <
> https://github.com/rmannibucau> <
> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau <https://github.com/rmannibucau>>> |
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau <
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau <
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>>> |
> >>>>>>>> Book
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> <
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >
> >> <
> >>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> <
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 18:36, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:
> raymond.a...@liferay.com> <mailto:
> >> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would make a case to integrate the site
> content
> >>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that contains the code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? This makes it much more apt to being kept
> >> up to
> >>>>>>>> date
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be made to both sources, docs and site content
> >> in a
> >>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changeset.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:31 PM Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:
> raymond.a...@liferay.com> <mailto:
> >> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For reference here is the INFRA ticket [1] for
> >> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> migration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> task.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20633 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20633> <
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20633 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20633>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:19 PM Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:
> raymond.a...@liferay.com> <mailto:
> >> raymond.a...@liferay.com <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David, That would be great!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see where consensus takes us.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far we have antora as a candidate. Does
> >> anyone
> >>>>>>>> else
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire to take some other solution?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> <mailto:
> >> david.a.jen...@gmail.com <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Camel website is mostly built with Antora
> >> (I
> >>>>>>>> don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reluctance to use it for everything).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/ <https://camel.apache.org/> <
> https://camel.apache.org/ <https://camel.apache.org/>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/ <
> https://camel.apache.org/> <
> >> https://camel.apache.org/ <https://camel.apache.org/>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

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