If you can fix or get fixed the logo that would be fantastic! David Jencks
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID> > wrote: > > Can we at least fix the logo? It's really bad :D > > Anyone opposed to removing the text from the logo so we can just use markup? > > - Ray > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:47 AM David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> You can clone what I have now, but I wonder if we should get the >> publishing steps working and get the repos under aries first, on the theory >> that the preview is as good as the current site :-) >> >> David Jencks >> >>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID> >> wrote: >>> >>> @djenks I took a quick look at the preview site and it looks fine to me. >>> The logo is clearly in terrible shape ;) but we can fix that I think. I >>> happen to know a graphic artist who might be able to fix it and turn it >>> into a higher quality version (ideally svg, if we could find the source >> of >>> the image that would be the best route.) >>> >>> Now, as far as I can tell, a lot of the site content is super outdated >> and >>> I don't believe anyone has maintained `Application` for a very long time. >>> Also, there is no central build anymore so almost all the "Building >> Aries" >>> is wrong since most projects are standalone builds. I would remove almost >>> all of that stuff. >>> >>> Once you have a repo with docs I can clone maybe I can take a crack at >>> removing some of the cruft. >>> >>> - Ray >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:11 AM Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey so I don't want to interrupt since it seems like you guys are >> running >>>> with this and I don't want to start a parallel stream. >>>> >>>> One key point I want to make sure we all consider is that there _are_ at >>>> slew of external projects (cdi, component-dsl, containers, >>>> jaxrs-whiteboard, journaled-events, jpa, rsa, tx-control) that need to >>>> somehow be integrated into the process with the caveat that their own >> site >>>> content should really be in their own repository alongside the source >> code, >>>> again for simplicity. >>>> >>>> I thought Antora could do that (since it had a git client build it), but >>>> now I'm no longer sure about that? >>>> >>>> - Ray >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:48 AM Romain Manni-Bucau < >> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Le dim. 9 août 2020 à 16:43, David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com> a >>>>> écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> Well, your talend example >>>>>> - isn’t self contained >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As mentionned, just used it as a proof we dont need a front build. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - doesn’t have the css and js processing/compression/checking that a >> built >>>>>> Antora UI has >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Only for customizations which does not impact perfs - or is likely >> faster >>>>> than a custom fulll build like antora thanks cdn. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> which would get a -1 from me. >>>>>> >>>>>> It also has the script references in head-meta.hbs rather than >>>>>> head-scripts.hbs, I have to wonder why. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To have script per page and not global without a complex if logic, not >>>>> needed for aries. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have no problem with a bootstrap based UI if the above problems are >>>>>> fixed, but constructing one is beyond my current abilities or >> interest. >>>>>> Since generally no one is interested in websites let alone their UI I >>>>> think >>>>>> sticking with the simplest possible modification of the default UI >> makes >>>>>> sense. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wouldnt use antora like ui, it is not that common for aries or asf >> users >>>>> and requires a lot of tuning to make it doc friendly - talend flavor >> was >>>>> done with a doc team and layout was not (upfront) obvious for me. >>>>> Guess we cna inherit the nav mecanism. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:27 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 20:25, David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>> a >>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 08:46, David Jencks < >> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> >>>>> a >>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Supplemental UI is a horrible workaround for the insufficient UI >>>>>>>> builder. >>>>>>>>>> I’ve somewhat improved the UI builder by making it a separate >>>>> project, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> making it able to aggregate lots of UI bits: antora-ui-builder < >>>>>>>>>> https://gitlab.com/djencks/antora-ui-builder> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If we go with it, can we fork it at asf? >>>>>>>>> Not depending on one - even very good ;) - man project is always >>>>> saner, >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> already bite us by the past. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hesitated to suggest using it for that reason. We can’t fork it >> at >>>>>>>> Apache (mpl2.0) but anyone can fork it at GitLab. After working >> with >>>>>>>> node.js stuff for a few months I have the impression that the vast >>>>>> majority >>>>>>>> of node projects are one-man efforts. The idea of a builder is an >>>>> open >>>>>>>> issue in the default UI, but I got tired of waiting and wrote one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other reason I think my builder to start with is reasonable is >>>>> that >>>>>>>> it’s very easy to turn a project using it into a fork of the default >>>>> UI. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now we can just move on bootstrap and use cdn, supplemental ui is >>>>> then >>>>>>>>> mainly just about hbs/templates and does not need much front build >>>>> (as >>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>> asf sites). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don’t understand what you mean, could you clarify? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we’ll want to change the colors (at least I do) which >>>>> involves >>>>>> css >>>>>>>> which can’t be done with supplemental UI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It can since you fully control the templates - this is what is done >> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> link i shared on a bootstrap base. >>>>>>> Just tune the hbs template. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’m planning to set up a UI project using this for Aries tomorrow >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> include the logo, Apache feather, and perhaps lunr search… that’s >>>>> why >>>>>> I >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> asking if Aries has a favorite color :-) Using my ui-builder >>>>> project >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>> tie us to something less likely to be maintained than Antora, but >>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> certainly separates the alterations from the default UI clearly, >>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> forking does not. Lets get something that looks good and discuss >>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> further. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree checking all the links is a good idea :-). Camel uses the >>>>>> xref >>>>>>>>>> checker and a link checker, I think I’ve seen a different link >>>>> checker >>>>>>>>>> strongly recommended, I’ll try to find it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that the “full content” should be one “old” >>>>> version >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> that the “currently relevant content” should be a separate >> “latest” >>>>>>>>>> version? Otherwise I’m not sure what you are suggesting. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 11:17 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> About the theme, Dan says default one is not for prod so we >> should >>>>>> fork >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> and just do an aries theme instead of inheriting from default >> one. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/tree/master/documentation/src/main/antora/supplemental-ui >>>>>>>>>>> can help to bootstrap it (needs to import a few tpl from default >>>>>> antora >>>>>>>>>>> theme). It is based on bootstrap but any stack works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> About the content: I'd ensure current links - except index.hml - >>>>> are >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> broken and maybe register new clean up content on antora version? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Know tomee did it, got a clean site, then imported back old >>>>> content >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> made the site messy so not fully sure we should do it but the >>>>> clean >>>>>>>>>> version >>>>>>>>>>> got some nice feedback from users. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 02:48, David Jencks < >>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> >>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve done about 90% of (5). What remains is mostly escaped html >>>>>> links >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> tables. I suspect this can be condensed using attributes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at the preview >>>>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html < >>>>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>. >> A >>>>>> lot >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> the content looks to me as if it may be totally obsolete and >>>>>>>> misleading >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> the site might be improved by removing it. Fixing the html >> links >>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> be a >>>>>>>>>>>> noticeable amount of work and if we’re going to drop the pages >>>>> I’d >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> avoid doing it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Next step is to refine the left side nav. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 3:37 PM, David Jencks < >>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s my idea :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The current site doesn’t seem very themed. Does Aries have a >>>>>>>> favorite >>>>>>>>>>>> color? I find a color distinction between header and footer and >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> body a >>>>>>>>>>>> nice framing of the content. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW I’m most of the way through (5). I realize I committed the >>>>>>>>>>>> “author-mode” local version of the playbook, I’ll fix that when >> I >>>>>>>> commit >>>>>>>>>>>> the asciidoc fixes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also BTW, svn2git creates a new git repo, which is where we are >>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never done it but think that by adding it as a remote to >> the >>>>>> main >>>>>>>>>> git >>>>>>>>>>>> repo I’ll be able to merge in the site as a merge from a branch. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose a first draft of the nav file could mirror the >>>>> directly >>>>>>>>>>>> structure…. right now it’s just an alphabetical list of all >>>>> pages. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is the plan to add all sources (git repos) and do the >>>>> theme? (I >>>>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le ven. 7 août 2020 à 20:25, David Jencks < >>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve done 1-3, and 4 enough to build a site with all adoc >>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>> listed >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nav. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Site is previewed at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html >>> . >>>>>>>> Note >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is not a web server, and some things that work on a web >>>>>> server >>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you an error. I don’t know of any with this particular >>>>> preview, >>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>> don’t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume something will necessarily be broken if it doesn’t >> work >>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Git repos from which this is built: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content: aries-antora-site < >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora-site> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antora playbook: aries-antora < >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To build it yourself, install node and npm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clone the aries-antora < >>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora> >>>>>>>>>>>> playbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run npm run clean-build. The site will be under build. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I left the mdtext files in place next to the adoc >>>>> translations so >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be easy to check back when looking for errors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:25 PM, David Jencks < >>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at this briefly… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think the following steps will lead us to a nice Antora >>>>> site: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. convert the svn to a git repo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. translate the .markdown files to asciidoc in place with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kramdown-asciidoc asciidoctor/kramdown-asciidoc: A kramdown >>>>> ... - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHubgithub.com › asciidoctor › kramdown-asciidoc < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6mdCO9oXrAhWwJDQIHYAeCt0QFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fasciidoctor%2Fkramdown-asciidoc&usg=AOvVaw2sOAmH3_x0kdG3iuFoZ7OX >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (there will be plenty of errors to fix….) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Move the content to an Antora structure with some minimal >>>>>>>> amount >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (re)organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Set up Antora navigation, build, and UI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Fix the asciidoc errors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Consider what further reorganization is appropriate, such >>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the docs for (sub)projects to those subprojects. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Figure out how to use the Apache publish-to-git system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Refine the UI. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it will be simplest if I just do steps 1-4. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There seems to already be a git aries-site repo that looks >>>>>>>>>> abandoned. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I move the current content to a different branch and use >>>>> that >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> (1)? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments? Objections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>> .INVALID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/ < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:36 PM David Jencks < >>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked around a little bit and couldn’t find the source >>>>> for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website. Is it hidden somewhere in Apache CMS svn? Does >>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buildbot uses bash so just ensure node is there - a bit >>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> travis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if not download it and that's it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively frontend plugin works well as mzntionned by >>>>>>>> David: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/blob/master/documentation/pom.xml#L567 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 21:27, David Jencks < >>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In typical apache fashion, there doesn’t appear to be >> any >>>>>>>> actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about how to use buildbot or what it can >> do. >>>>>>>>>> However, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buildbot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be a general purpose tool. It’s possible to >>>>> run >>>>>>>>>> Antora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maven, so if we can’t figure out any more direct >>>>> approach we >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building on GitHub using GitHub actions might be another >>>>>>>> option: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely possible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .INVALID> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like antora requires node.js to build? Can >>>>> such a >>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF buildbot jobs? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:46 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, also enables to trivially generate doc >>>>> parts/partials >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important for all the configuration IMHO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | >> Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | >>>>> Book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 18:36, Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would make a case to integrate the site content >> into >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that contains the code. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? This makes it much more apt to being kept up to >>>>> date >>>>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be made to both sources, docs and site content in a >>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changeset. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:31 PM Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For reference here is the INFRA ticket [1] for this >>>>>>>>>> migration >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> task. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20633 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:19 PM Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David, That would be great! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see where consensus takes us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far we have antora as a candidate. Does anyone >>>>> else >>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire to take some other solution? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM David Jencks < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Camel website is mostly built with Antora (I >>>>> don’t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reluctance to use it for everything). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/ < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might be able to help with a migration to >> Antora. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Long story short you write the doc in asciidoctor >>>>>>>> (which >>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk import html in the transition period or >>>>> markdown >>>>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asciidoctor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supports most of markdown), then you create a >>>>>>>> descriptor >>>>>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source repos you want, then it will render all >> the >>>>>>>> sites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that generates a static website you just >>>>> upload >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> svnpubsub >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flavor) or any solution you want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The product website uses that and I used it for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://talend.github.io/component-runtime/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://talend.github.io/component-runtime/main/1.1.24/index.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | >>>>>> Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn < >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> >>>>> | >>>>>>>>>> Book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 17:42, Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:39 AM Romain >>>>> Manni-Bucau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ray, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you have a look to antora? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is exactly designed for this kind of thing >>>>> and >>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not. Link? :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (it is not on the Apache wiki page referenced, >>>>> so if >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> story and integrates well into the Apache infra >>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there as well) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> >>>>> | >>>>>>>> Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn < >>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> >>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>>>> Book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 17:30, Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ugh... forgot to CC you andrew. Please read >>>>> back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:29 AM Raymond Auge < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Andrew, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aries is structured as several repos where >> the >>>>>> main >>>>>>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sub-projects, but several other sub-projects >>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> broken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repos. All repos are git. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What options do you recommend for this >>>>> scenario? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if the main repo could hold >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> core >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate repos contribute their content >>>>> somehow. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas how we could do that (sequenced >>>>> build >>>>>>>>>>>> triggers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs is what I'm thinking)? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:42 AM Raymond Auge >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:40 AM Raymond Auge >>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The site is indeed still using the old CMS >>>>> and >>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transition it. I can try to do this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll look through the info you've sent but >>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>> there's a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or checklist that helps migrate to any >>>>>> particular >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:33 AM Andrew >>>>> Wetmore < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andr...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infra is assembling a Wiki page [2] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on migrating a website from the CMS, and >> is >>>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects with this transition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. Wiki, got it! I will start with that. I >>>>> may >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you along the way. ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know whether your site is >>>>> still >>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who will be the project point-of-contact >>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> Infra >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/project-site.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Migrate+your+project+website+from+the+Apache+CMS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technical Writer-Editor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Apache Software Foundation* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andr...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.avast.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* < >>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>>> (@rotty3000) >>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com> >>>> (@Liferay) >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> >>> (@rotty3000) >>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com> >>> (@Liferay) >> >> >> > > -- > *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> > (@rotty3000) > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com> > (@Liferay)