I don't mind notifying users@, but this does seem more interesting for dev@.
We will continue to publish Maven artifacts from our Gradle build, so users
are still free to use either Maven or Gradle.

That being said, if this is interesting to users@ we can notify them as
well.

Reuven

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:45 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Le 29 mars 2018 21:20, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit :
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> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:17 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Le 29 mars 2018 20:35, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit :
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>> 1. As Luke already mentioned, we should first have a subgoal of the
>> Gradle jenkins jobs being equivalent to the Maven jobs. Hopefully toward
>> the end of the day, we'll make this change.
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>> 2. Let's see how much progress we make on the third. There is a side
>> problem we have here at Google - we have an internal product called
>> Dataflow built on Beam, and the Dataflow build still depends on those pom
>> files. I would request leaving the pom files around just a little bit
>> longer even if Beam no longer needs them, just so that we don't breakd
>> Dataflow (and I think we would do this for any community members with a
>> similar issue). We will prioritize moving Dataflow ASAP, it's just that the
>> people who will do so will also be in the April 3 fixit so it can't happen
>> until after. I think the delay should only be one or two weeks to delete
>> the poms (assuming that Beam is ready at the end of the day).
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>> Can you try to put a date of that and we will communicate on it publicly
>> if anyone else does (i dont think but i didnt expect you to do it too ;)).
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> What do you mean by communicate publicly? The dev list is already cced
> here :)
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> Misses a (not too far) date and users@ pby to be safe ;)
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>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:20 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Hi Reuven, a few questions:
>>>
>>> 1. any inputs on how we can work on the jenkins part? Do we test it live
>>> wiht "fake" PRs?
>>> 2. What's the rational to not start by deleting the poms? Sounds like it
>>> will be a day working on gradle and on the 4th we'll be back on maven
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>>> 2018-03-29 4:46 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <re...@google.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Last week we discussed having a "fixit" day for Gradle, and I
>>>> volunteered to organize it. A number of people volunteered to help, from
>>>> multiple organization. I'd like to say that it's great to see such a
>>>> diverse set of people volunteering to help here - this is a great way to
>>>> build community! Everyone who explicitly volunteered is directly cced on
>>>> this email, though we'd love for more of the community to help.
>>>>
>>>> The agreed upon date is April 3. The top-level JIRA tracking this work
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> ttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249
>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249>, and we currently
>>>> have 26 subtasks linked to it. I've created a Kanban board to track these
>>>> issues, which I'll share out soon. We will use Slack the day of the fixit
>>>> for collaboration and for questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Two major goals for this fixit should be to 1. Remove Maven runs from
>>>> our Jenkins executors and 2. to migrate our release process fully over to
>>>> Gradle. A lot of work has already been done on 1., and we've made some
>>>> progress on 2.. Slightly longer-term the goal is to delete all of the pom
>>>> files; I'm not sure we'll get as far as completely deleting Maven in one
>>>> day, but we should get within striking distance!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance to everyone who's helping out!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reuven
>>>>
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