Here is the Kanban board tracking all the current tasks. It looks like 7 of them have already been closed over the past two days, so we're down to 19!
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=242 On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:21 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yep - sorry if it was unclear. I know linux distro often do it (never > understood why though). > > > Romain Manni-Bucau > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github > <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance> > > 2018-03-30 7:54 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <re...@google.com>: > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:28 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < >> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It was more about the drop of poms (same case as you for dataflow). >>> >> >> Ah - you're worried that some external users are building directly from >> the poms rather than using the published artifact. >> >> I think this is a valid concern, and I agree we should announce on users@ >> before (probably some time before) deleting the poms . >> >> >>> On that there is a missing but highly important task: gradle to mvn >>> descriptors. All the one I saw were corrupted poms so we must take care of >>> that as part of the release work (I can work on it on the 3rd if you want). >>> >>> Le 29 mars 2018 23:36, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit : >>> >>>> I don't mind notifying users@, but this does seem more interesting for >>>> dev@. We will continue to publish Maven artifacts from our Gradle >>>> build, so users are still free to use either Maven or Gradle. >>>> >>>> That being said, if this is interesting to users@ we can notify them >>>> as well. >>>> >>>> Reuven >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:45 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 21:20, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:17 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 20:35, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. As Luke already mentioned, we should first have a subgoal of the >>>>>> Gradle jenkins jobs being equivalent to the Maven jobs. Hopefully toward >>>>>> the end of the day, we'll make this change. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Let's see how much progress we make on the third. There is a side >>>>>> problem we have here at Google - we have an internal product called >>>>>> Dataflow built on Beam, and the Dataflow build still depends on those pom >>>>>> files. I would request leaving the pom files around just a little bit >>>>>> longer even if Beam no longer needs them, just so that we don't breakd >>>>>> Dataflow (and I think we would do this for any community members with a >>>>>> similar issue). We will prioritize moving Dataflow ASAP, it's just that >>>>>> the >>>>>> people who will do so will also be in the April 3 fixit so it can't >>>>>> happen >>>>>> until after. I think the delay should only be one or two weeks to delete >>>>>> the poms (assuming that Beam is ready at the end of the day). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you try to put a date of that and we will communicate on it >>>>>> publicly if anyone else does (i dont think but i didnt expect you to do >>>>>> it >>>>>> too ;)). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What do you mean by communicate publicly? The dev list is already cced >>>>> here :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Misses a (not too far) date and users@ pby to be safe ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:20 AM Romain Manni-Bucau < >>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Reuven, a few questions: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. any inputs on how we can work on the jenkins part? Do we test it >>>>>>> live wiht "fake" PRs? >>>>>>> 2. What's the rational to not start by deleting the poms? Sounds >>>>>>> like it will be a day working on gradle and on the 4th we'll be back on >>>>>>> maven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github >>>>>>> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book >>>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-03-29 4:46 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <re...@google.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Last week we discussed having a "fixit" day for Gradle, and I >>>>>>>> volunteered to organize it. A number of people volunteered to help, >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> multiple organization. I'd like to say that it's great to see such a >>>>>>>> diverse set of people volunteering to help here - this is a great way >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> build community! Everyone who explicitly volunteered is directly cced >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> this email, though we'd love for more of the community to help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The agreed upon date is April 3. The top-level JIRA tracking this >>>>>>>> work is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249 >>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249>, and we >>>>>>>> currently have 26 subtasks linked to it. I've created a Kanban board to >>>>>>>> track these issues, which I'll share out soon. We will use Slack the >>>>>>>> day of >>>>>>>> the fixit for collaboration and for questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Two major goals for this fixit should be to 1. Remove Maven runs >>>>>>>> from our Jenkins executors and 2. to migrate our release process fully >>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>> to Gradle. A lot of work has already been done on 1., and we've made >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> progress on 2.. Slightly longer-term the goal is to delete all of the >>>>>>>> pom >>>>>>>> files; I'm not sure we'll get as far as completely deleting Maven in >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> day, but we should get within striking distance! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to everyone who's helping out! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reuven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >