Here is the Kanban board tracking all the current tasks. It looks like 7 of
them have already been closed over the past two days, so we're down to 19!

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=242

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:21 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yep - sorry if it was unclear. I know linux distro often do it (never
> understood why though).
>
>
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> 2018-03-30 7:54 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <re...@google.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:28 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It was more about the drop of poms (same case as you for dataflow).
>>>
>>
>> Ah - you're worried that some external users are building directly from
>> the poms rather than using the published artifact.
>>
>> I think this is a valid concern, and I agree we should announce on users@
>> before (probably some time before) deleting the poms  .
>>
>>
>>> On that there is a missing but highly important task: gradle to mvn
>>> descriptors. All the one I saw were corrupted poms so we must take care of
>>> that as part of the release work (I can work on it on the 3rd if you want).
>>>
>>> Le 29 mars 2018 23:36, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I don't mind notifying users@, but this does seem more interesting for
>>>> dev@. We will continue to publish Maven artifacts from our Gradle
>>>> build, so users are still free to use either Maven or Gradle.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, if this is interesting to users@ we can notify them
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Reuven
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:45 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 21:20, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:17 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 20:35, "Reuven Lax" <re...@google.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. As Luke already mentioned, we should first have a subgoal of the
>>>>>> Gradle jenkins jobs being equivalent to the Maven jobs. Hopefully toward
>>>>>> the end of the day, we'll make this change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Let's see how much progress we make on the third. There is a side
>>>>>> problem we have here at Google - we have an internal product called
>>>>>> Dataflow built on Beam, and the Dataflow build still depends on those pom
>>>>>> files. I would request leaving the pom files around just a little bit
>>>>>> longer even if Beam no longer needs them, just so that we don't breakd
>>>>>> Dataflow (and I think we would do this for any community members with a
>>>>>> similar issue). We will prioritize moving Dataflow ASAP, it's just that 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> people who will do so will also be in the April 3 fixit so it can't 
>>>>>> happen
>>>>>> until after. I think the delay should only be one or two weeks to delete
>>>>>> the poms (assuming that Beam is ready at the end of the day).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you try to put a date of that and we will communicate on it
>>>>>> publicly if anyone else does (i dont think but i didnt expect you to do 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> too ;)).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean by communicate publicly? The dev list is already cced
>>>>> here :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Misses a (not too far) date and users@ pby to be safe ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:20 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Reuven, a few questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. any inputs on how we can work on the jenkins part? Do we test it
>>>>>>> live wiht "fake" PRs?
>>>>>>> 2. What's the rational to not start by deleting the poms? Sounds
>>>>>>> like it will be a day working on gradle and on the 4th we'll be back on
>>>>>>> maven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-03-29 4:46 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <re...@google.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Last week we discussed having a "fixit" day for Gradle, and I
>>>>>>>> volunteered to organize it. A number of people volunteered to help, 
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> multiple organization. I'd like to say that it's great to see such a
>>>>>>>> diverse set of people volunteering to help here - this is a great way 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> build community! Everyone who explicitly volunteered is directly cced 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> this email, though we'd love for more of the community to help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The agreed upon date is April 3. The top-level JIRA tracking this
>>>>>>>> work is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249>, and we
>>>>>>>> currently have 26 subtasks linked to it. I've created a Kanban board to
>>>>>>>> track these issues, which I'll share out soon. We will use Slack the 
>>>>>>>> day of
>>>>>>>> the fixit for collaboration and for questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two major goals for this fixit should be to 1. Remove Maven runs
>>>>>>>> from our Jenkins executors and 2. to migrate our release process fully 
>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>> to Gradle. A lot of work has already been done on 1., and we've made 
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> progress on 2.. Slightly longer-term the goal is to delete all of the 
>>>>>>>> pom
>>>>>>>> files; I'm not sure we'll get as far as completely deleting Maven in 
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> day, but we should get within striking distance!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to everyone who's helping out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reuven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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