Thanks for the doc Lukasz

So we do 3 groups?

1. Jenkins
2. Release
3. Outputs/behavior (shades, jars, javadoc, ensure concurrency is not
hardcoded, ...)

?

Happy to be in 3 or 2 (by preference) if you agree.

Le 31 mars 2018 10:54, "Aljoscha Krettek" <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Thanks Luke, that was helpful!
>
> I've been playing around with gradle a bit and now have a question: By
> default the shadow plugin will include dependencies that are "compile" or
> "runtime" (compile dependencies are by default also runtime dependencies)
> into the shaded jar. Is that correct? The reason our build doesn't do that
> is that we have custom include/exclude rules that prevent that from
> happening. I just noticed that when I change the Flink dependencies from
> shadow to compile in the Flink Runner build file the shaded jar will not
> contain the Flink classes.
>
> Btw, I'm not saying that I want to include the Flink classes, I was just
> messing around with things to get a feeling for how things work.
>
> On 31. Mar 2018, at 00:15, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have started a doc[1] containing a Gradle primer to help people be more
> productive during the fixit day. Feel free to add/update comments and
> content.
>
> 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EiTwEMD8FNhU4Ok6jthASpmK3-
> 1hiAYzVTrdl8qBLrs/edit?usp=sharing
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:33 AM Reuven Lax <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Here is the Kanban board tracking all the current tasks. It looks like 7
>> of them have already been closed over the past two days, so we're down to
>> 19!
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=242
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:21 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep - sorry if it was unclear. I know linux distro often do it (never
>>> understood why though).
>>>
>>>
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> | Github
>>> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
>>>
>>> 2018-03-30 7:54 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:28 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It was more about the drop of poms (same case as you for dataflow).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah - you're worried that some external users are building directly from
>>>> the poms rather than using the published artifact.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a valid concern, and I agree we should announce on
>>>> users@ before (probably some time before) deleting the poms  .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On that there is a missing but highly important task: gradle to mvn
>>>>> descriptors. All the one I saw were corrupted poms so we must take care of
>>>>> that as part of the release work (I can work on it on the 3rd if you 
>>>>> want).
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 23:36, "Reuven Lax" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mind notifying users@, but this does seem more interesting
>>>>>> for dev@. We will continue to publish Maven artifacts from our
>>>>>> Gradle build, so users are still free to use either Maven or Gradle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, if this is interesting to users@ we can notify them
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reuven
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:45 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 21:20, "Reuven Lax" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:17 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 29 mars 2018 20:35, "Reuven Lax" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. As Luke already mentioned, we should first have a subgoal of the
>>>>>>>> Gradle jenkins jobs being equivalent to the Maven jobs. Hopefully 
>>>>>>>> toward
>>>>>>>> the end of the day, we'll make this change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Let's see how much progress we make on the third. There is a
>>>>>>>> side problem we have here at Google - we have an internal product 
>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>> Dataflow built on Beam, and the Dataflow build still depends on those 
>>>>>>>> pom
>>>>>>>> files. I would request leaving the pom files around just a little bit
>>>>>>>> longer even if Beam no longer needs them, just so that we don't breakd
>>>>>>>> Dataflow (and I think we would do this for any community members with a
>>>>>>>> similar issue). We will prioritize moving Dataflow ASAP, it's just 
>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>> people who will do so will also be in the April 3 fixit so it can't 
>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>> until after. I think the delay should only be one or two weeks to 
>>>>>>>> delete
>>>>>>>> the poms (assuming that Beam is ready at the end of the day).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you try to put a date of that and we will communicate on it
>>>>>>>> publicly if anyone else does (i dont think but i didnt expect you to 
>>>>>>>> do it
>>>>>>>> too ;)).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you mean by communicate publicly? The dev list is already
>>>>>>> cced here :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Misses a (not too far) date and users@ pby to be safe ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:20 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Reuven, a few questions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. any inputs on how we can work on the jenkins part? Do we test
>>>>>>>>> it live wiht "fake" PRs?
>>>>>>>>> 2. What's the rational to not start by deleting the poms? Sounds
>>>>>>>>> like it will be a day working on gradle and on the 4th we'll be back 
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> maven
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/> | Github
>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2018-03-29 4:46 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Last week we discussed having a "fixit" day for Gradle, and I
>>>>>>>>>> volunteered to organize it. A number of people volunteered to help, 
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> multiple organization. I'd like to say that it's great to see such a
>>>>>>>>>> diverse set of people volunteering to help here - this is a great 
>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>>> build community! Everyone who explicitly volunteered is directly 
>>>>>>>>>> cced on
>>>>>>>>>> this email, though we'd love for more of the community to help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The agreed upon date is April 3. The top-level JIRA tracking this
>>>>>>>>>> work is
>>>>>>>>>> ttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249
>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3249>, and we
>>>>>>>>>> currently have 26 subtasks linked to it. I've created a Kanban board 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> track these issues, which I'll share out soon. We will use Slack the 
>>>>>>>>>> day of
>>>>>>>>>> the fixit for collaboration and for questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Two major goals for this fixit should be to 1. Remove Maven runs
>>>>>>>>>> from our Jenkins executors and 2. to migrate our release process 
>>>>>>>>>> fully over
>>>>>>>>>> to Gradle. A lot of work has already been done on 1., and we've made 
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> progress on 2.. Slightly longer-term the goal is to delete all of 
>>>>>>>>>> the pom
>>>>>>>>>> files; I'm not sure we'll get as far as completely deleting Maven in 
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> day, but we should get within striking distance!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to everyone who's helping out!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reuven
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>

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