Ankur/Eugene,

When you have a chance, please also update the Flink section of:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KDa_FGn1ShjomGd-UUDOhuh2q73de2tPz6BqHpzqvNI/edit#gid=0

Thanks!

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:29 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:

> The command to run the job server appears to be: ./gradlew -p
> runners/flink/job-server runShadow
>
> Can you please provide the equivalent of the super basic Python example
> from the prototype:
>
>
> https://github.com/bsidhom/beam/blob/hacking-job-server/sdks/python/flink-example.py
>
> Looks as if the Python side runner changed:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "flink-example.py", line 7, in <module>
>     from apache_beam.runners.portability import universal_local_runner
> ImportError: cannot import name universal_local_runner
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:34 PM Eugene Kirpichov <kirpic...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Those instructions are not current and I think should be discarded as
>> they referred to a particular effort that is over - +Ankur Goenka
>> <goe...@google.com> is, I believe, working on the remaining finishing
>> touches for running from a clean clone of Beam master and documenting how
>> to do that; could you help Thomas so we can start looking at what the
>> streaming runner is missing?
>>
>> We'll need to document this in a more prominent place. When we get to a
>> state where we can run Python WordCount from master, we'll need to document
>> it somewhere on the main portability page and/or the getting started guide;
>> when we can run something more serious, e.g. Tensorflow pipelines, that
>> will be worth a Beam blog post and worth documenting in the TFX
>> documentation.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 5:35 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eugene,
>>>
>>> The basic streaming translation is already in place from the prototype,
>>> though I have not verified it on the master branch yet.
>>>
>>> Are the user instructions for the portable Flink runner at
>>> https://s.apache.org/beam-portability-team-doc current?
>>>
>>> (I don't have a dependency on SDF since we are going to use custom
>>> native Flink sources/sinks at this time.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:13 AM Eugene Kirpichov <kirpic...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Wanted to let you know that I've just merged the PR that adds
>>>> checkpointable SDF support to the portable reference runner (ULR) and the
>>>> Java SDK harness:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5566
>>>>
>>>> So now we have a reference implementation of SDF support in a portable
>>>> runner, and a reference implementation of SDF support in a portable SDK
>>>> harness.
>>>> From here on, we need to replicate this support in other portable
>>>> runners and other harnesses. The obvious targets are Flink and Python
>>>> respectively.
>>>>
>>>> Chamikara was going to work on the Python harness. +Thomas Weise
>>>> <t...@apache.org> Would you be interested in the Flink portable
>>>> streaming runner side? It is of course blocked by having the rest of that
>>>> runner working in streaming mode though (the batch mode is practically done
>>>> - will send you a separate note about the status of that).
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:20 PM Eugene Kirpichov <kirpic...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Luke is right - unbounded sources should go through SDF. I am
>>>>> currently working on adding such support to Fn API.
>>>>> The relevant document is s.apache.org/beam-breaking-fusion (note: it
>>>>> focuses on a much more general case, but also considers in detail the
>>>>> specific case of running unbounded sources on Fn API), and the first
>>>>> related PR is https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/4743 .
>>>>>
>>>>> Ways you can help speed up this effort:
>>>>> - Make necessary changes to Apex runner per se to support regular SDFs
>>>>> in streaming (without portability). They will likely largely carry over to
>>>>> portable world. I recall that the Apex runner had some level of support of
>>>>> SDFs, but didn't pass the ValidatesRunner tests yet.
>>>>> - (general to Beam, not Apex-related per se) Implement the translation
>>>>> of Read.from(UnboundedSource) via impulse, which will require implementing
>>>>> an SDF that reads from a given UnboundedSource (taking the UnboundedSource
>>>>> as an element). This should be fairly straightforward and will allow all
>>>>> portable runners to take advantage of existing UnboundedSource's.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 3:08 PM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Using impulse is a precursor for both bounded and unbounded SDF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This JIRA represents the work that would be to add support for
>>>>>> unbounded SDF using portability APIs:
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-2939
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:46 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So for streaming, we will need the Impulse translation for bounded
>>>>>>> input, identical with batch, and then in addition to that support for 
>>>>>>> SDF?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any pointers what's involved in adding the SDF support? Is it runner
>>>>>>> specific? Does the ULR cover it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All "sources" in portability will use splittable DoFns for
>>>>>>>> execution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specifically, runners will need to be able to checkpoint unbounded
>>>>>>>> sources to get a minimum viable pipeline working.
>>>>>>>> For bounded pipelines, a DoFn can read the contents of a bounded
>>>>>>>> source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:52 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm looking at the portable pipeline translation for streaming. I
>>>>>>>>> understand that for batch pipelines, it is sufficient to translate 
>>>>>>>>> Impulse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the intended path to support unbounded sources?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The goal here is to get a minimum translation working that will
>>>>>>>>> allow streaming wordcount execution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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