Thanks for following up with this Kenn.

-Max

On 16.11.19 00:05, Alex Van Boxel wrote:
I like the "Angler fish" as well... it certainly faster then a cuttlefish....

  _/
_/ Alex Van Boxel


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:57 PM Kirill Kozlov <kirillkoz...@google.com <mailto:kirillkoz...@google.com>> wrote:

    Angler fish? Found a few animated examples that may look interesting
    [1, 2, 3, 4].
    [1] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927340/
    [2] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/353180795779533157/
    [3] https://www.pinterest.com/pin/121175046208927334/
    [4]
    
https://graphicriver.net/item/cartoon-angler-fish/16828573?ref=gvector&clickthrough_id=1413785108&redirect_back=true

    On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
    <aizha...@apache.org <mailto:aizha...@apache.org>> wrote:

        That last sketch of a cuttlefish with a hat is really really
        good. I vote for that.

        On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Kenneth Knowles
        <k...@apache.org <mailto:k...@apache.org>> wrote:

            PSA: cuttlefish tentacles look more like their face, not
            their legs. Please find attached illustrations to that
            effect. And also evidence that they are occasionally fancy.
            Definitely *not* from a respectable designer or anyone who
            could execution a professional logo.

            I do think the PMC needs to shepherd this. I would suggest
            starting with an approval vote [1] for animal (no plant
            ideas?) and then an ASF-style vote to record the validated
            result. From there, we can go through more standard design
            process.

            Kenn

            [1] https://www.electionscience.org/library/approval-voting/

            On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:54 AM Maximilian Michels
            <m...@apache.org <mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote:

                It's great we're having this discussion and we came up
                with a lot of
                great ideas through it. However, it is unclear how we
                proceed from here.
                Certainly, we can't let designers work with an
                open-ended discussion on
                the type of mascot.

                Personally, I'm fine with _any_ kind of mascot, as long
                as it is made by
                a decent designer. The respectable designer I'm talking
                to was very
                generous to donate these sketches for free. I don't
                think that this is
                to be expected at all. Coming back to the original idea
                of hiring
                multiple designers, I don't see how we will pay those
                designers to all
                come up with a logo, unless we all donate money.

                The sketches I've sent might not look like much because
                there is still a
                decent process involved in coming up with the final logo
                which looks
                good in different sizes, possibly with many iterations.
                So far I've
                tried to incorporate as many of the suggestions here,
                but for the sake
                of protecting the designer, I think I'll have to stop
                doing that. It
                simply won't work.

                How to proceed from here? I think _any_ professionally
                executed logo
                will do, this is really more about the community
                agreeing for the
                greater good. Ultimately, I think the PMC might have to
                decide on how to
                proceed here.

                Cheers,
                Max

                On 15.11.19 13:59, Hannah Jiang wrote:
                 > I also vote for firefly.
                 >
                 > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:38 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev
                <valen...@google.com <mailto:valen...@google.com>
                 > <mailto:valen...@google.com
                <mailto:valen...@google.com>>> wrote:
                 >
                 >     I like the firefly sketch a lot, it's my favorite
                so far.
                 >
                 >     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM Robert Bradshaw
                 >     <rober...@google.com <mailto:rober...@google.com>
                <mailto:rober...@google.com
                <mailto:rober...@google.com>>> wrote:
                 >
                 >         #37 from the sketches was the cuttlefish,
                which would put it at
                 >         (with
                 >         4 votes) the most popular so far. I do like
                the firefly too.
                 >
                 >         On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Gris Cuevas
                <g...@apache.org <mailto:g...@apache.org>
                 >         <mailto:g...@apache.org
                <mailto:g...@apache.org>>> wrote:
                 >          >
                 >          > Hi everyone, so exciting to see this convo
                taking off!
                 >          >
                 >          > I loved Alex's firefly! -- it can have so
                many cool
                 >         variations, and as a stuffed animal is very
                original.
                 >          >
                 >          > Other ideas I had are a caterpillar
                because it looks like a
                 >         data pipeline, lol or the beaver!
                 >          >
                 >          > Feedback on the current sketches.
                 >          > - They resemble a lot either the Octocat
                or Totoro [1]
                 >          > - I'd like to see something that is
                completely new and
                 >         original, pancakes from gRPC is an example[2]
                 >          > - Something more caricaturesque is better,
                since we can dress
                 >         it up and modify it
                 >          >
                 >          > To move forward, it seems that the animals
                that were winners
                 >         in this thread are:
                 >          >
                 >          > Beaver (3)
                 >          > Firefly (3)
                 >          > Lemur or votes on sketches (3)
                 >          > Cuttlefish (2)
                 >          > Hedgehog (1)
                 >          > Salmon (1)
                 >          >
                 >          > So let's focus the design proposals on the
                three winners:
                 >         beaver, firefly and lemur.
                 >          > I'd like to see more options on beavers
                and fireflies, the
                 >         current sketch options I think are based on
                the cuttlefish and
                 >         the lemur (?)
                 >          >
                 >          > I think it's a good idea to get sketches
                from multiple
                 >         designers, since like someone else pointed
                out, we'll get
                 >         variations based on their personal styles,
                and someone else
                 >         mentioned here that we have teams/companies
                <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
                 >         <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/companies>
                with designers in
                 >         their teams, so let's take advantage of that
                as well :)
                 >          >
                 >          > I'd suggest to fork the conversation into
                a call for sketched
                 >         and we vote on that.
                 >          >
                 >          > [1]
                 >
                
https://www.google.com/search?q=totoro&sxsrf=ACYBGNTFW6vq76cHp05g4vBaR-SVJNI1iw:1573674471669&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTwICf-uflAhUKHqwKHVtzAykQ_AUIEigB&biw=1440&bih=735
                 >          > [2]
                 >
                
https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes+grpc&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwixgqjV-uflAhUBOawKHX2pAfsQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=pancakes+grpc&gs_l=img.3...13774.22674..22826...10.0..0.112.1818.13j6......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i39j0j0i67j35i362i39j0i10j0i5i30j0i8i30.hNtaBfSYNv8&ei=WV7MXfHxIYHysAX90obYDw&bih=735&biw=1440
                 >

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