On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:49 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:09 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest we start with the simpler single file. If merge
>> conflicts become an issue, we could look at other options, but I think
>> it's worth keeping in mind that what we're trying to produce here is a
>> single, higher-level, cohesive summary of the release rather than a
>> 1:1 listing of commits, pull request, or jira entries (which we can
>> link to). While new features often merit their own bullet points, this
>> will allow for entries such as "Several improvements to portability
>> including ..."
>
> I agree. If there are no objections I will go ahead with the PR I proposed. 
> It adds a single change log file to begin with.
>
> We would need all committers to help after that by asking PR authors to 
> update this file whenever it makes sense.

Yes. Should we add it to the PR template checklist?

>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:55 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 9:22 AM Chad Dombrova <chad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In case it's of any use, there's a tool called towncrier[1] to help 
>> >> compile changelog fragments and compile them at time of delivery.
>> >
>> >
>> > I would prefer not to have the complexity of multiple files and an added 
>> > tool to the release process. I do not have a strong opinion though. If 
>> > others prefer we can switch to this tool. One nice benefit of this tool 
>> > would be to avoid merge conflicts if many different PRs edit the change 
>> > log file all at the same time in a conflicting way.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I came across this when working on the python-attrs[2] project, which has 
>> >> some good documentation for contributors on how to use it: 
>> >> https://www.attrs.org/en/stable/contributing.html#changelog
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://github.com/hawkowl/towncrier
>> >> [2] https://github.com/python-attrs/attrs
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 5:09 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for the quick responses. I sent out 
>> >>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/10743 to make this change. Please 
>> >>> provide feedback or directly edit the PR.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:58 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes, yes, yes! This is the one model of release notes that I've
>> >>>> actually seen work well at scale.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/41e03ace17dbcccf7e267ba6d538736b2a99a8e73e7fb45702766b17%40%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Let's make it happen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:47 PM Robert Burke <rob...@frantil.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I like this suggestion, Jira titles and commit summaries don't 
>> >>>> > necessarily reflect the user impact for a given change (or set of 
>> >>>> > changes). Being able to see the Forest instead of the trees.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 3:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> +1
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> This is a great idea. Hope it can lead to higher-value view of 
>> >>>> >> relevant changes.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I like it being in the root of the repo, so it lives next to the 
>> >>>> >> code.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Since the website is also markdown, it could be copied over directly 
>> >>>> >> at release time, so it can be browsed there, too.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Kenn
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> We currently have two major ways to communicate changes in a 
>> >>>> >>> release:
>> >>>> >>> - A blog post, to highlight major changes in the release. (Example 
>> >>>> >>> for 2.17: [1])
>> >>>> >>> - JIRA release notes pages listing all issues tagged for a specific 
>> >>>> >>> release. (Example for 2.17 [2]).
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> There are a few issues with this process:
>> >>>> >>> - It is difficult for the release manager to know what is 
>> >>>> >>> important, what is a breaking change, what is dependency change 
>> >>>> >>> etc. For example, there were more than 150 Jira issues tagged for 
>> >>>> >>> 2.17 release.
>> >>>> >>> - Release blog has many items, and does not necessarily communicate 
>> >>>> >>> important changes. It is difficult for users to discover major 
>> >>>> >>> changes short of going through a large list.
>> >>>> >>> - People involved in authoring or reviewing a PRs usually have the 
>> >>>> >>> most context about the change, and they are not necessarily 
>> >>>> >>> involved in the release process to provide this additional 
>> >>>> >>> information.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Would it be helpful if we maintain a simple change list file and 
>> >>>> >>> update it as part of the PRs with noteworthy changes? Release 
>> >>>> >>> managers could use this information as is in their blog posts (or 
>> >>>> >>> link to it). Users will have a single place to find highlights from 
>> >>>> >>> various versions.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Concretely, I am proposing:
>> >>>> >>> - Adding a CHANGES file to the root of the repository. (Name could 
>> >>>> >>> be anything, TFX uses RELEASE.md in their repo. [3])
>> >>>> >>> - Ask PR authors to update this file as part of their PR whenever 
>> >>>> >>> it makes sense
>> >>>> >>> - Reference this file during the release process, and a new section 
>> >>>> >>> for the next release after each release.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Ahmet
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> [1] https://beam.apache.org/blog/2020/01/06/beam-2.17.0.html
>> >>>> >>> [2] 
>> >>>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12345970&projectId=12319527
>> >>>> >>> [3] https://github.com/tensorflow/tfx/blob/master/RELEASE.md

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